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What do you think about "strong up/forward and down motion" around 0:35?

 

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"Improve your fundamental technique on-piste first"  Not only is this good advice, it should also be considered a no-brainer.

 

Pete, I viewed both your videos. If you are looking for the ideal model for short turns and bumps, you have found it.

 

The Austrian? At the very least, if limited to his own personal physique related bio-mechanics, this tool is dead spot on. No 2 ways about it.

 

You are right about making turns when you know they are for an MA. There are ways around that which will benefit the process.

 

Between your video demo, a very sound self-MA and a keenly chosen top tier demonstration to model after, I would say that you come across as very promising.

 

My question for you is: what in God's hell are you going to do about it?  ;)

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What I'm going to do about what? I don't think I'll ever be able to ski like this guy :-( But I'll do anything within my modest capabilities to get close ;-) I spent last 5-6 seasons working hard on my technique (including but not limited to skiing up to 45 days per season, taking lessons, filming for MA etc) and I can see the improvement (hope you too)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxRI36vGWso

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hwYzcdBnlY

...(not as big as I want :hissyfit:) but there are limiting factors - time and money ;-)

 

Looking at your avatar I'm starting to ask my self: Are you making me an offer for my soul .... hehe  :eek 

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What do you think about "strong up/forward and down motion" around 0:35?

 

 

I'm a big fan of Austrian skiing and this video is about as good as it gets.

 

You are asking about the "strong up/forward and down motion". First, I have some gripes with that that statement and I think its incorrect. IMO it should read "strong up/forward and down/backward motion". Or "strong up and down motion". Or strong forward and backward motion". Not "strong forward and down motion". In order to go forward you have to go backwards first. Like a tennis racket, first you make a take back and then you strike forwards. But I see this kind of missinformation being spammed quite often. The video is great, I just dont understand why people cant express themselves correctly. It makes it so much easier for the student or the viewer of the content. The reason is offcourse that they want you to stay out of the back seat. Stay forwards. The funny thing is that fexing and extending causes a very aft toilet seat position when flexed and only a very moderate forward position when extended. Kind of contradicting.

 

Anyway, there are two basic consepts when turning. You can up-unweight to turn or you can tip your skis to turn. In the former you produce skidded and steered turns, in the latter you carve. After the carving revolution 10-15y ago people have forgotten how to turn outside the carving realm. So the up-down motion has been pretty much ridded from most peoples skiing. One of the most visual results can bee seen offpist where most people struggle to turn even if they lug arroud with 6000USD worth of equipment.

 

Anyway, look at the next segment starting at 0:42. No strong up-down movement like in previous segment. They even talk about a "stable upper body". Thats great cross under type of turns. There is some up-down motion but very little. Still there is some. And for good reason. You want to be moving up and down a little to create some momentum and to intencify your pressure phase. Think of it like jumping on a trampolin. You can offcourse stand on a trampoline and rappidly wack your feet up and down while keeping your upper body stable in the vertical plane while your feet contact the textile all the time but its much smoother to jump up and down. Nothing wrong with pure retraction transitions when you need it. Mostly you dont. and if you are a recreational skier you never or hardly ever need it. Sometimes you do it just for fun or for show. I guess thats needing too..... LOL.

 

Anyway, thanks for posting. And BTW, huge improvemet in your skiing. Congrats.

 

TDK

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What I'm going to do about what? I don't think I'll ever be able to ski like this guy :-( But I'll do anything within my modest capabilities to get close ;-) I spent last 5-6 seasons working hard on my technique (including but not limited to skiing up to 45 days per season, taking lessons, filming for MA etc) and I can see the improvement (hope you too)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxRI36vGWso

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hwYzcdBnlY

...(not as big as I want :hissyfit:) but there are limiting factors - time and money ;-)

 

Looking at your avatar I'm starting to ask my self: Are you making me an offer for my soul .... hehe  :eek 

I will be the first to tell you that trading your soul in exchange for the absolute full potential of your skiing as is apparent, will be the best decision you will ever make in your entire life. Yes, you may not feel so much this way at the time of your expiration upon which your debt will be reconciled with immediate bludgeoning of your soul with a red hot pitch fork. However, as my Mom always said "the whole point is to live life for today because tomorrow, "tomorrow" will just be another day away". I'm just kidding, everybody knows I never had a mother.

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