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post #31 of 46
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Originally Posted by Tog View Post

No, he wants gs type turn rradius. Kendo is 22m?

 

The Redster does just fine in long turns. Just got to know how. :D 

post #32 of 46
That's not hat he wants. He wants something that turns like a Kendo . Smooth, easy gs like but handles speed better and is narroower.
post #33 of 46
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Originally Posted by Tog View Post

That's not hat he wants. He wants something that turns like a Kendo . Smooth, easy gs like but handles speed better and is narroower.

 

Well, the Redster SL fits the bill on all counts. The Redster SL is actually moe stable at high speed than my 203 Kendo. By far, my MX88 is a better Kendo at Stratton this year.

 

Just finished 18 days of spring skiing at Taos, I preferred the Redster SL over both the Kendo and Volkl One for versatility.  Maybe it's just me. :rolleyes    

post #34 of 46
Well i get it but...

You have a 203cm Kendo?? Is it 1987 vintage?

Nice with the slalom at Taos!
Was that the Redster Fis slalom or the double deck 3.0? And which year?
post #35 of 46

A redster sl skis like a GS ski?

post #36 of 46
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Originally Posted by Tog View Post

Well i get it but...

You have a 203cm Kendo?? Is it 1987 vintage?

Nice with the slalom at Taos!
Was that the Redster Fis slalom or the double deck 3.0? And which year?

 

My bad - 2013. My third pair of Kendo. Maybe my last pair - maybe not.

 

I love my new Redster SL 158 FIS 2015 - cuz I ski like a girl. It is not high strung like my old D2 SL. Really sweet.     

It can and will make longish turns like the Kendo. Just need a bit of smoothness, fineness - be soft and gentle. Sound like something else I like to do. :D 

post #37 of 46
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Originally Posted by levy1 View Post

A redster sl skis like a GS ski?

The Atomic Redster SL ....On Capable Feet, is seriously fast and has dampness and intense penetration at speed.

I ski mine in an open carve (Read GS arc) at Garmin GPS verified speeds as high as the mid to upper 40's

Edge grip and stability is truly confidence inspiring. .....I would never have expected this but I have pushed these boards much faster and harder than I ever thought possible of any SL

....my Dynastar 165 SL's are in overspeed and skittish anywhere above 35

My Atomics are a 155 !! I weigh 204 in my ski boots

I cannot overpower these boards. Seriously...

Atomic SL's are a True Joy..... As long as you know how to drive !

....ask Marcel and Michaela. Or me (!). duel.gif
post #38 of 46
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Originally Posted by Tog View Post

That's not hat he wants. He wants something that turns like a Kendo . Smooth, easy gs like but handles speed better and is narroower.

 

Well, the Redster SL fits the bill on all counts. The Redster SL is actually moe stable at high speed than my 203 Kendo. By far, my MX88 is a better Kendo at Stratton this year.

 

Just finished 18 days of spring skiing at Taos, I preferred the Redster SL over both the Kendo and Volkl One for versatility.  Maybe it's just me. :rolleyes    

 

Funny you should bring this up because I had back to back runs on the same trail in spring bumps yesterday on a  pair of 155cm x 64mm SLs and a pair of 169cm x 90mm all-mountains. (Because @LiquidFeet and I are boot-sole-length buddies.) They were both very fun. It was easy snow. I guess I liked the all-mountains a bit better in some of the thicker stuff left over from a storm earlier in the week, but the slaloms were friskier ... in a good way.

post #39 of 46

The bumps on Kachina peak was hard and firm - winter snow type of bumps. The Redster was much better in the hard snow bumps. The Kendo was a bit smoother in the slush bumps lower down. I suppose we both enjoy both type of skis.  

 

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Funny you should bring this up because I had back to back runs on the same trail in spring bumps yesterday on a  pair of 155cm x 64mm SLs and a pair of 169cm x 90mm all-mountains. (Because @LiquidFeet and I are boot-sole-length buddies.) They were both very fun. It was easy snow. I guess I liked the all-mountains a bit better in some of the thicker stuff left over from a storm earlier in the week, but the slaloms were friskier ... in a good way.

post #40 of 46
Just Rip it you talking about the fis junior slalom? Isn't the women's 158?

The term Redster is completely meaningless. They use it like Nordica uses "Dobermann" but for some reason no one uses that term except for the boots.

Why not the 165 for free skiing? Or are you racing on it too?
It does have better float. Lol

Still, even a stable slalom at speed requires a level of attention that say a Fischer Progressor 900 in 176 does not. Though given the choice of only one i'd take the slalom. The 165.
post #41 of 46

Tog, Atomic also make the women in a 155. Never skied the 155. 

I don't race and I like the 158 better than the 165. The 165 is way too stiff in the bumps (for me). The 158 is way more fun.

 

Your last line mentioned the level of attention required to ski a SL. I don't have much, but let me tell you, my son ran me down on a pair of Atomic D2 SL 158 cm thru 16" of fresh wet crud at the bird last May. I was floating on a pair of 186 cm Gotama. So I know some have more than others.        

post #42 of 46
155 is Women's FIS Norm .... R=12.7. Shortest permitted. 158 is longest Women's permitted. FIS Mens 165 R=12.7.

Redster is the Atomic Race Ski brand. SL. GS. DH. All Atomic race types are branded Redster. ...Atomic all mountain and others are not...

"Float" leads to edge disconnect..... Ever hear a racer looking for "float" in a GS ski?

....yes the SLs require a level of attention the aforementioned do not. It's all in the precision and stability available at high speed and long arcs.....

It is a finesse thing..... An SL at high speed requires very fine input and limited edge angle to rip long stable fast arcs

I've driven many a race ski and the Atomic flat (non double deck) SL is by far my favorite ride!

If you know how to drive.....
post #43 of 46
Float as in soft snow. Not the float in transition. Was kidding anyway.

Interesting about the 155/8cm slalom! I was in the store the other day flexing them and did notice the 158's had a nice flex. I would find it difficult to go buy a 158 for free skiing though. Though I did have a 160 Elan that I got the year they switched to 165 for men. That was a nice ski with a Vist plate on it.

Redster is used for consumer race and fis race. That's the annoying thing. Too confusing. Everything is Redster. Like Rossi now with Hero. It's a meaningless term other than it's racing like and not all mountain.
post #44 of 46
Being a mostly GS hi speed carving kind of guy and mostly being on the old Volkl P 9 and those type of skis it amazes me to hear about a slalom ski in that reguard.
I will say I have my eye on a pair of redster sl for ski club racing.

I am thinking of a volkl code l for a easy GS ski.
post #45 of 46

As JPI already mentioned, stay with the flat deck Redster FIS norm version. It's not as high strung like the D2 SL. 

post #46 of 46
Levy, sounds like you should go for the 158. Race on it then see. From store flexing the 158's are def softer. Also it seems like the Volkls, current year, might be softer in 165 than some others. I did like the flex of the Blizzard 165 in store.

The old short carving skis like the Elan psx 113 or 123cm used to be great for.... Carving big turns. So much fun. When you see someone just pivoting feet left and right doing short turns it's a misuse of those skis.
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