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need knee help

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
I have knee problems and am wondering if anybody has pain in the same area of their knee as I do. Sadly my knee pain is brought on the most by skiing. Other activities hurt it too; climbing stairs and going from a squating position to standing stick out in my mind. The pain seems to mainly be on the inside side above my knee cap. Anybody have any ideas what it could be? I have hurt my knees so many times that not one incident sticks out in my mind. So there hasn't been any major injuries I can remember.
post #2 of 17
I'm not being a jerk, however, I'd see a doc. Actually I would see two. I'm 47, run a good deal and am on skis teaching all winter. I had a little knee stiffness this spring and got two wildly different perspectives from two well thought of physicians.

X-ray and an MRI will only tell you so much. Scoping the knee is really the only way to get a look, however, it's invasive.

Try exercise,rest,massage,glucosamine,aleeve,ice,etc prior to surgery.

Oh, my diagnosis, chondromalasia (sp) or o torn medial femoral chondyl (I know I spelled that wrong)!

Good luck.
post #3 of 17
For the actual diagnose, you need to see a doctor. It is important to NEVER, EVER, listen to diagnoses done by friends, and ABSOLUTELY never listen to a diagnose given over the internet, even by a doctor, but ESPECIALLY if someone has no medical background.

After you've had it diagnosed, there are some great threads here on knee injuries. Even though you have not had an ACL tear, unfortunately, being female makes you susceptible.

There is a new concept in Sports Medicine called PREHABILITATION. Basically, it involves doing the therapeutic exercises for an area you are susceptible to injury, as preventative medicine.

Here are some threads you can take a look at:



Good luck and welcome to Epicski!

post #4 of 17
PS. IWhen you go to a doc, let him know if there's any history of arthritis in your family.
post #5 of 17
Welcome to Epicski, SkiBumChic

See a Doc, Rest and Ice...

then get a second opinion.. You show you are in UT. there should be plenty of great orthropods in the area as well as sport's medicine places. in addition to LM's suggestion to mention any family history of arthritis I would recommend you let the doc know about the numerous prior injuries. Osteo-arthritis (only one of many possiblities) can be caused by injuries.
post #6 of 17
what Rusty Guy and Lisamarie said.

why would you want a "guess" at what is causing your knee problems? do you fear the doctor?

as a victim and survivor of 4 surgeries on my right knee and one surgery on my left knee, I can tell you that the only recourse for knee trouble is to go to an orthopaedist that not only is board certified as a Sports Medicine specialist, but also has EXTENSIVE experience with athletes and knee injuries. Some MDs will call themselves "Sports Medicine" specialists merely to market their services. Beware.

There is no substitute for a high-quality orthopod's examination and diagnosis. Accept nothing less.
post #7 of 17
Hey, Gonzostrike forgot to mention his favorite "medical" option, the multicharging, slap on the electrostim, ---Chiropracter! Chiropoacher??
post #8 of 17
post #9 of 17
heh heh heh... chiroQUACKtors

how to spot a chiroQUACKtor
post #10 of 17
If you just want to learn more about your knees here are a couple of sites www.kneepaininfo.com www.kneeguy.com www.steadman-hawkins.com
post #11 of 17
skibumchic, rusty guy has good advice. Sounds like chondromalacia patellae though meniscal injury is possible. I'd see a good sports med doc like gonz said but in the meantime rest, glucosamine sulfate, and patience is the way to go. If it is chondromalacia and you push too hard too quickly you can add fuel to the fire and really get it messed up. skidoc
post #12 of 17
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the good advice. And I am already scheduled to see a doctor. I just wanted to go in there with as much knowledge and understanding as possible. I guess I am just impatient and want to know whats going on with my knee. Especially since most people I know with knee problems don't have pain in the same place as mine. I hope I picked a good doctor!
post #13 of 17
Some injuries are the result of speific
injury, others hapen because of what is called THE CUMULATIVE INJURY CYCLE.

Simply put, there can be some sotrt of
misalignment, not necessarily in your knees, could be anywhere. This creates a dysfunction in a movement pattern. Since all movement is a function of what is known as the KINETIC CHAIN, one misalignment can effect another body part.
The cumlative cycle of faulty movement
can cause the injury.
post #14 of 17
Went to a great workshop in Toronto last week, featuring Terry Kane, Pt to the Calgary Flames and Canadian Olympic Ice Hockey Team.

He had some interesting things to say about chodromalacia patella syndrome. In most cases, knee injuries can be the result of a misalignment or muscle imbalance.

Not necessarily so with CPS. This injury can be caused by what he calls too much time in "BLT".

Often , the pain can be alleviated by spending less time with knees in an extremely bent postion. IT band and quad stretches can be helpful.
post #15 of 17
Thread Starter 
I went to see an orthopedic surgeon the other to find ouit what was wrong. And congratulations you guys were right. That is what I have. My treatment consists of anti-inflammatories and physical therapy. But I went to the physical therapy and it seemed more like a waste of money to me, I already know how to stretch and work out and thats all they had me do. The work out didn't even do anything either. And I don't know if I like the idea of the medicine I am supposed to take either. It is prescription strength Ibiprofen, equivalent to like 4 regular ibiprofens. But after long term use can't that stuff damage your liver or kidneys or something? I don't see pain killers as a solution, it seems like it just masks the pain. I don't think this "therapy" is gonna help very much. As soon as the ski season starts my knee is gonna be hurting again.
post #16 of 17
I had pretty severe chondromalacia 20 years ago. Take the ibuprophen. Ibuprophen isn't a pain killer. It works by reducing the inflamation. After you eliminate the inflamation, you can work out with enough intensity to correct whatever imbalance or weakness that led to the original problem. After your knee is better, switch to aspirin every day. That's what worked for me.
post #17 of 17
Once again, in many cases, chodromalacia can have nothing to do with a muscular imbalance. As I mentioned in a post above, sometimes its brought on by spending too much time in a bent and loaded position. Think about what you do the rest of the year and if possible try to spend less time in a bent knee loaded position.
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