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Calf bruising

post #1 of 8
Thread Starter 

Hi,

I have high arches, really wide feet, and big calves.

 

I have read some of the issues here regarding these issues but can't find a post exactly the same.

 

I have custom fit boots, they widened them significantly to accommodate my feet. I have had them a few years but we didn't ski last season.

 

I just came back from 3 days skiing and I have a large bruise about 3 o'clock on the inside of my left leg (12 o'clock being the shin) up the leg just below where the calves start to get bigger.

 

I dont get toe bang and have no problems in the foot, problems are in the leg and getting the legs and I can`t get the balance between firmness and comfort. 

 

Should I get thinner socks to accommodate my calves? Should I have them adjusted to accommodate my calves? Did I wear my boots too loose? We were skiing relatively easy slopes and I maybe I didn't tighten the strap or a particular buckle correctly? 

 

Any help appreciated.

 

Thanks,

post #2 of 8

Hi Mr Heifer,

A thin sock, and no long underwear in the boot is the first starting point.  If your boot has a cuff angle adjustment, it should be reset to tip the cuff inward and reduce pressure on the medial calf (3:00 on left).  Next, stretching the cuff using a magnum wine bottle, a football, or some other device (Southern Ski Tools force bearing stretcher) warming the cuff to 300 degrees than cooling to hold the shape.  Occasionally, The liner cuff needs to be modified with a grind or a cut in the cuff material to relieve the calf.

A simple solution is to add a heel lift inside the liner to lift the calf higher in the liner.  This does affect balance position and could be negative in that regard.

Cheers,

Bob Gleason

BootDoctors Telluride 

post #3 of 8
Measure the circumference of you calves at the top of the liners and what size feet in centimeters --- also what size boots?

Mike
post #4 of 8
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the tips.

I`ve updated location as we are no longer in Switzerland

 

At the moment only a thickish ski sock goes in the boot. The bruise is exactly at the top of the cuff, looking at it without the boots I thought that would be in the boot. Thin ski sock definitely in order at a minimum. I also had a longer bruise in similar spot on the right leg but it started in the same place was less pronounced and about 6 inches long.

 

Measurements, feet 28cm, calves at the liner 43.8 cm, boots Lange Super Blaster 120 size 29.5. They were custom fit in Switzerland and the fitter took pride in displaying my widened boots vs the standard so he stretched them out a lot.

 

Could they have shrunk? Ive had them 4 years with no activity last season.

 

Thanks for all your help.

post #5 of 8
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Originally Posted by willyofoz View Post
 

Thanks for the tips.

I`ve updated location as we are no longer in Switzerland

 

At the moment only a thickish ski sock goes in the boot. The bruise is exactly at the top of the cuff, looking at it without the boots I thought that would be in the boot. Thin ski sock definitely in order at a minimum. I also had a longer bruise in similar spot on the right leg but it started in the same place was less pronounced and about 6 inches long.

 

Measurements, feet 28cm, calves at the liner 43.8 cm, boots Lange Super Blaster 120 size 29.5. They were custom fit in Switzerland and the fitter took pride in displaying my widened boots vs the standard so he stretched them out a lot.

 

Could they have shrunk? Ive had them 4 years with no activity last season.

 

Thanks for all your help.

 

http://www.epicski.com/a/boot-fitting-which-boot-will-work-for-me

 

Read through the above article and do a "shell check" for us.

 

You / (anyone) would get bruises from banging around in things.  Your boots are too big!  You are a 28, skiing in a 29.5 boot--- partly

 

because you have large calves. This larger boot feels better because, when you put it on you could stand more upright in it---

 

BUT--- this is because your heels are not in the back of the boot.  Look for lint (an indicator) in and around the heel of the

 

footbed of your boot.   if your heel were in the back, there would not be any lint back there.

 

      Large calves push the leg forward, if you then move your leg to a more upright stance, this pushes your calf

 

muscle into the back of the upper cuff which in turn pushes your feet forward in the shell.  This would cause fore/aft balance

 

problems and most often get you into the back seat.  More than likely you can feel your feet moving around in there as you

 

ski and may even be trying to grip the boot by curling your toes---no fun!   Sadly you will have all these problems as long as 

 

you have these boots.  

 

     There is no way to make a big boot smaller, the only solution is to get into the right size boot (shell check)  and have

 

them modified to fit your width and calf size (Wow 43.8cm / 17 inch calves)  All of this can be done,:madbut not to the boots you

 

now have, since you would still be moving around in there.  

 

see the tool Bob (bootdr) mentioned here: http://southernski.com/toe-jam-spreader-ultimate-cuff-stretcher.html

 

The problem with using a wine bottle to stretch boot cuffs for calf muscles is, you may not get the same amount of forward lean in both the

 

right and left boot and this would adversely affect your fore/aft balance symmetry for you.  

 

mike

post #6 of 8
Thread Starter 

Thanks I will do a shell fitting on the weekend. I don`t FEEL like my foot moves around, I have wide feet, and pretty chunky (tall/ large volume) so I wear my boots on the outside clips on the foot. Any tighter cuts off the circulation. On the shins they start on the outside and after a run or two I can tighten them but I think I am squeezing the calves. 

 

I will look for lint.

 

Thanks for the help let`s see how the shell check goes.

post #7 of 8
Thread Starter 

Thanks, so I did the shell check and probably not surprising to you I have 35mm of room. That`s with my big and little toe lightly brushing the front, the others are off the shell. There is a little lint in the heel of the liner, not a lot.

 

So I am guessing my only path to great ski performance is a new shell?

 

Is there any way to just comfortable skiing? Can I salvage anything from these boots? Any suggestions on boots for a 10.5 EEEE running shoe with big calves and high arches?

 

I think I am going to take up snowboarding :-(.       Naaaah :-).

 

Thanks for the time and expert advice. I really appreciate it.

post #8 of 8
Quote:
Originally Posted by willyofoz View Post
 

Thanks, so I did the shell check and probably not surprising to you I have 35mm of room. That`s with my big and little toe lightly brushing the front, the others are off the shell. There is a little lint in the heel of the liner, not a lot.

 

So I am guessing my only path to great ski performance is a new shell?

 

Is there any way to just comfortable skiing? Can I salvage anything from these boots? Any suggestions on boots for a 10.5 EEEE running shoe with big calves and high arches?

 

I think I am going to take up snowboarding :-(.       Naaaah :-).

 

Thanks for the time and expert advice. I really appreciate it.

"Salvage" a lesson well learned----- and look at the new Salomon X-Pro 120 or X-Pro 130 both have generous proportions in the toe box and are considerably more upright(fit your calf muscles), plus the shell  can be heat molded to fit around your foot.----all good.

 

give your old boots to someone with much larger feet;).

 

find a boot fitter!!!!!!!!

 

Good Luck

 

mike

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