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post #31 of 53

Mine are coming tomorrow , your report is making me very excited, Scott was able to order me a pair after you snatched the last pair he had!!! Your report is confirming just what I was hoping this ski would do.

post #32 of 53
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A women's ski?  That's interesting.  I was skiing it today, wondering whether I could talk my wife into getting a pair for herself.  What a lovely, lovely ski.  Every time I'm on it, it's a better ski than the last time I skied it.  I was wondering, too, whether I shouldn't snap up another couple of pairs (given funds I don't have) for myself.

So true. Yes. Ski or skiing had it in the women's section. Not that it wouldn't be a great women's ski. Damn. Skied today in classic spring snow and it's great. Was able to swap with my friend on his mx 83 Much smoother, easy going damp but 90%of the energy. Preferred it in the bumps and heavy loose snow.
post #33 of 53
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Yeah, I am not sure how but I have to believe kastle's choice to position the 84 in reviews as a "womens" ski or lighter weight ski put this ski on the back burner of most men.  This ski is not a lightweight (EG: LX line, which is also a very good ski) ski by any means as it has the same layup as the 94 which in reviews is often described as a "beast".  To the contrary, both are very easy to ski with a remarkable balanced feel that makes them both ski so predictably.  

yesterday was Kastle day; @tam
, me and my friend were all skiing kastles; MX88, MX83 and my FX84.     Hey @COSkiGirl
 and @rx2ski
 when are you going to get a pair??  biggrin.gif  

Maybe when I either get a large pay raise or win the lottery.
post #34 of 53
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Maybe when I either get a large pay raise or win the lottery.


Mmm-mm -- dawgcatching had them at $550.  Pretty affordable at that price.  

 

 

(Not that your finances should be dictated by me.  Heaven forfend.  I can wish you a lucky number, though.)

post #35 of 53
Well, that would be reasonable if I hadn't bought Head Great Joys (that I love) this year and didn't need either a new group set or entire new road bike right now. Why did I choose 2 expensive sports?rolleyes.gif
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Well, that would be reasonable if I hadn't bought Head Great Joys (that I love) this year and didn't need either a new group set or entire new road bike right now. Why did I choose 2 expensive sports?rolleyes.gif

 

Hey, I am the person to talk to you if you are looking at either a Cannondale or Trek! 

post #37 of 53
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P.S.

 

@dawgcatching (Scott) -- no chance of tracking down, like, a 160 FX 84, I suppose?

 

I didn't know they made that length: we haven't had it in here. I can ask.  

post #38 of 53
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I didn't know they made that length: we haven't had it in here. I can ask.  

They do, actually. The FX 84 is sometimes billed as a woman's ski. Not sure I can convince my wife to buy a pair undemoed, but I know she'd find the price attractive.
post #39 of 53
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They do, actually. The FX 84 is sometimes billed as a woman's ski. Not sure I can convince my wife to buy a pair undemoed, but I know she'd find the price attractive.

 

That doesn't make any sense: it is the same layup as the 94, so I have no idea what makes it a "women's" model.  Not many women's skis come in 184cm.

post #40 of 53
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That doesn't make any sense: it is the same layup as the 94, so I have no idea what makes it a "women's" model.  Not many women's skis come in 184cm.


Didn't say it was correct.  I should clarify, too:  I saw a pair of 160s labeled "women's skis."  The 168s and longer were labeled "men's skis."   It was an online retailer, can't recall who. 

post #41 of 53
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Hey, I am the person to talk to you if you are looking at either a Cannondale or Trek! 

Good to know!
post #42 of 53
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They do, actually. The FX 84 is sometimes billed as a woman's ski. Not sure I can convince my wife to buy a pair undemoed, but I know she'd find the price attractive.

 

 

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That doesn't make any sense: it is the same layup as the 94, so I have no idea what makes it a "women's" model.  Not many women's skis come in 184cm.

 

So true!  This was my comment in my mini review, I think it was both Ski and Skiing reviewed the 84 as "womens" skis, I would probably blame Kastle for this as they would submit the ski in that category.  The 84 isn't a lightweight ski in any sense and it is the exact same feel as the 94. I do think however, that any competent skier would enjoy this ski. The flex is so consistent and even.  I am curious to see where the new FX85 shows up in the reviews now it grows to 181 in the mid-length (former 176 IIRC). I think lightweight skiers or a skier who skis "lightly" would prefer a LX series.  The whole concept of Womens skis is just marketing. 

post #43 of 53
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So true!  This was my comment in my mini review, I think it was both Ski and Skiing reviewed the 84 as "womens" skis, I would probably blame Kastle for this as they would submit the ski in that category.  The 84 isn't a lightweight ski in any sense and it is the exact same feel as the 94. I do think however, that any competent skier would enjoy this ski. The flex is so consistent and even.  I am curious to see where the new FX85 shows up in the reviews now it grows to 181 in the mid-length (former 176 IIRC). I think lightweight skiers or a skier who skis "lightly" would prefer a LX series.  The whole concept of Womens skis is just marketing. 

 

True, but I'm amazed at how light it is, compared to the other two-sheets-of-metal skis I've hefted — and at that light weight, how smooth they are in mixed snow.  They handle crud better than my heavyweight Contact 4x4s, much better than my lightweight, non-metal, Rossi Pursuit 18s. 

 

Lifting one to the bench last night (to put an actual east coast side bevel on it), I couldn't believe how light it seemed.  Hard to reconcile weight vs. performance in this ski.  

 

If I win the lottery before the end of the season, I'm snapping up as many pair as I can get.

post #44 of 53
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yeah was skiing ankle plus slush on copper bowls last week and it was supremely stable. Funny as I was thinking the same about having a pair in reserve but I have to imagine they are good for about 200 days.  

post #45 of 53
Dawg,

Love my MX 83's, trying to see of you might be able to get the FX84 in a 160 for my wife. We are headed to Portland early next week. Thank you again for all of your help.

-Mark
post #46 of 53
What's the difference between the FX and MX series skis?
post #47 of 53

Just spoke with the Kastle rep: there is no FX84 160cm in existence. I know the website says 160cm, so I am going to find out if this was a Europe-only model.  

post #48 of 53
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What's the difference between the FX and MX series skis?

 

FX has a bit of early rise, it has tip taper, and a rounded tail.  Wood layup is a bit thinner and more flexible as well, resulting in a bit more relaxed feel, bit larger sweet spot.  MX has no early rise, is stiffer, has more camber, a square tail, and skis more powerfully.  

post #49 of 53
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Just spoke with the Kastle rep: there is no FX84 160cm in existence. I know the website says 160cm, so I am going to find out if this was a Europe-only model.  

That's interesting. I see them online pretty often. What's up with that, I wonder?
post #50 of 53
Dawg,

I had actually seen it on their website. Any suggestions for my wife, something 84 or less underfoot. She is 120 lbs 5ft 4, advanced and athletic skier. Should I be looking at the LX? Any chance that you can get ahold of anything? She already skis a 97 underfoot nordica nemesis. I want to find her something that gives her the same feel that my MX83's give me.

Mark
post #51 of 53
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Dawg,

I had actually seen it on their website. Any suggestions for my wife, something 84 or less underfoot. She is 120 lbs 5ft 4, advanced and athletic skier. Should I be looking at the LX? Any chance that you can get ahold of anything? She already skis a 97 underfoot nordica nemesis. I want to find her something that gives her the same feel that my MX83's give me.

Mark

 

Once I hear back from the rep, I will let you know!  The LX would work; quite a bit different than the FX. I like the LX a lot, but the FX is going to be more confident in weird snow. It is laterally stiffer. 

post #52 of 53
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FX has a bit of early rise, it has tip taper, and a rounded tail.  Wood layup is a bit thinner and more flexible as well, resulting in a bit more relaxed feel, bit larger sweet spot.  MX has no early rise, is stiffer, has more camber, a square tail, and skis more powerfully.  


I am a big fan of the fx 94 so much that i want a fx 84 but i think there would be some overlap there.  The 94 is a true daily driver!  This is coming from someone who has been a volkl and line fanboy for years.  I took my prophets on an icy ungroomed run a few weeks ago and felt that they were chattery.  I would not have known that unless i skied the fx 94's the same run one day later.  What a difference!  I have drank the kool aid and am a believer.

post #53 of 53

How does the FX84 compare with the Experience 88? I demoed it several weeks ago on a trip out west, and enjoyed it, but  I probably don't need something that wide for most of the skiing I do. 

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