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Ride Lasso boots & K2 Cinch CTS bindings

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Changed up my gear with a few closeout deals, had the chance recently to get out and try the new setup.


First, I'm a beginner boarder, sticking to the groomed trails, greens to warm up, then the blue groomers.  Been boarding for about 6-7 years now, just a few days a year.  Currently on a Ride Control 156 which, at 5'-11", 195lbs is just a touch short for me, but still works well for my level.  Switched from the Ride Deuce boot with Flow 5 bindings to the Ride Lasso boot with K2 Cinch CTS bindings.  Left the set up (18/-15) the same and tried to keep the stance width as close as possible.


First, the boots.  Loved the new Lasso’s.  As with my Deuce’s, had to go up a ½ size to get the proper fit.  The Lasso’s seem to be a bit softer than my Deuce’s, but it’s a bit hard to compare.  The dual Boa lace system makes for a snugger fit over all the boot, and I really like the snugger fit around my heel.  The snugger fit of the Lasso makes the boot feel a bit stronger, but the shell of the Deuce feels a bit firmer.  Overall, I’d call it a wash.  In the end, I just like the way the Lasso fits better than the Deuce and I’d attribute that to the Boa lace system.


As an older boarder, I really like the ‘step-in’ feel to the both the Flow and Cinch systems.  Has always felt a bit quicker to get into the binding and get going down the hill than using a regular binding and I like not having to take a seat on the snow every time I lock my back foot down.  I had tried the K2 Cinch binding when it first came out and it felt a bit heavy to me in comparison to the Flow.  I like the Flow system a lot, but it has always come with two disadvantages.  First, it takes a lot of time to get the binding tension adjusted properly.  Second, the design of the boot strap, being one piece, can sometimes put pressure across the top of the foot, which, for me, caused times when my toes would go to sleep.  So, when I looked at the CTS, it seemed to be lighter than I remembered for the earlier version of this binding.   I was also intrigued to try out a more traditional binding and to see what how it felt to use a toe strap across the front of the toe vs. the flap design of the Flow system.


I found I really liked the overall feel of the K2.  I liked having two distinct straps.  At first, I missed the tight fit over my whole foot that I had with my Flow’s, but as I got used to the K2’s and how they felt in terms of their grip, and got them adjusted in terms of tension, I liked the more open feeling across the top of my foot without any feeling that I was sacrificing any control of my board.  To me, the biggest drawback to the K2’s is it took a bit more force and effort to get the highback snapped into place than it did on my Flow binding. 


Bottom line: I like the both the new boots, and will be sticking with the new K2 bindings.  The K2’s offer all the ease of access of my old Flow’s with less of a clamped feel across the top of my foot, and more versatility to wear them in multiple configurations.

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Thanks Tag. Gives me something to think about for my future equipment experiments. 


It's good that you've fixed that "heel lift" issue. That just kills toe side turns. Even though you're only getting a few days in per season, you should be approaching that "intermediate" level where you start getting the edge engaged more. Once you get to the point where you can use your edges to travel laterally across the slope with some authority, you'll be ready to carefully tackle a black run or two and then come back and own the blue runs. Good luck!

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Thanks, Rusty.


Don't really feel like I had a problem with getting an edge engaged, although I suppose that could be an issue for me.  Speed is the issue for me.  At relatively slower speeds, I feel like I have complete control of the board, can link turns well, and feel quite comfortable on both my heel and toe sides.  But on a steeper hill, the increased speed that happens on a turn quickly takes me out of my comfort zone.  So, I do a lot of traversing across the hill if I get to a steep section or on those few occasions when I venture onto a black diamond run or a steeper blue.  I try mightily, as a matter of principle, not to heel slide down a face, but have to admit that I do use that technique to maneuver my way around a short patch of rough terrain.


One other observation on the K2's - I did feel like the highback wasn't quite aligned with the back of my leg.  I'm fairly pronated naturally, so I had set up my Flow's with quite a duck-footed stance.  After riding on the K2's, I'm thinking I may need to tone that down a bit in order to get the highback to line up better with my lower leg.  I think I mis-stated my alignment above.  If each mark is 3*, then I'm currently at 21/-15, as my front foot is pointed more towards the front of the board than my back foot is pointing toward the back of the board.  Anyway, it felt pretty good with the Flows, but didn't seem to work as well with the K2"s

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There's getting the edge engaged, then there's really getting the edge engaged. When I was going for my level 2 cert, my coach was telling me to really push the edges into the snow hard. It seemed kind of stupid at the time and it seems kind of stupid now, but for me it was a phase I had to go through mentally to get my riding to the point where I was loading my weight directly onto the new edge vs just tipping the board on the edge and having my weight only move partially to the new edge. This makes a huge difference as you get on steeper terrain. One thing I've found that is common among my students is that most folks have a speed limit at the upper edge of their comfort zone. Every intermediate I've taught got a 50% boost to their speed limit when they learned to carve with their weight over the edge of the board. It's the same kind of quantum leap as when you go from you turning the board to the board turning you. When you go from the board turning you to you knowing exactly where the sidecut is going to take you, you start thinking in terms of turn shape instead of speed because your mind is imagining a rail track in the snow. Until you get that extra feedback from the board bending in your turns and get the "locked in" feeling, you never realize how much you've been riding with "the brakes" on. It sounds like you are close to this breakthrough.


One trick I've used with some of my bindings is to offset the highback to get a tighter fit. Experiment with setting the side nuts in different holes. So if the highback can be set for small, medium or large length boots, set one side on small and the other on medium for example. 21/-15 is ok. Have you tried 12/-9 with a slightly wider stance on your board?

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