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2nd pair of skis - Brahma or Power Track 89?

post #1 of 15
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I currently have a 173cm 2013 Fischer Motive and looking to get my 2nd pair of skis. Looking at Blizzard Brahma and Dynastar Power Track 98. Leaning towards the Dynastar due to the shorter turn radius. Haven't had the chance to try either (or others) as I am in the Midwest, but looking to be out west more next year. I am 6'0", 170 lbs.

Any comments on pros on cons? Also, what length?

Appreciate the feedback in advance!
post #2 of 15
Thread Starter 
Forgot to mention, I ski entirely groomed runs, but that can change as I get better. I want something that I will not outgrow too soon.

As for the Motives that I currently have, I find turn initiation and edge hold a bit lacking.
post #3 of 15
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Originally Posted by davetinio View Post

Forgot to mention, I ski entirely groomed runs, but that can change as I get better. I want something that I will not outgrow too soon.

As for the Motives that I currently have, I find turn initiation and edge hold a bit lacking.

Way different skis!  

 

What Motives do you have? How big are you? Any reason you are considering these 2?  They are very different skis; kind of like saying you are looking at a Land Cruiser SUV and an Audi Wagon.  Maybe not that extreme, but they are as far apart as you can get, personality wise.  

 

The Brahma is very quick, powerful, skis short, lots of energy, grippy.  The 89 is very relaxed, feels different, smooth, round turns.  I like it overall, super easy to ski in bumps (the Brahma can be a handful in bumps at my weight of 155lbs) but the turn finish is lacking on the 89, due to the tapered tail.  Brahma has a lot going for it too, especially on groomers.  If they could combine the best attributes of these 2 skis, it would be interesting for sure!  But it seems they are on the opposite end of the spectrum.  

post #4 of 15
Thread Starter 

I have the 2013 Motives, 175cm. I am looking for an all-mountain front-side biased ski, and I narrowed down to these 2 based on what I read in reviews. I am 6'0'', 170lbs.

 

I knew they would be somewhat different, but did not realize they are on the opposite ends of the spectrum. The impression that I get (and what you seem to validate with your comments) is that the Brahma is more demanding, but more versatile and rewarding with the requisite skill, while the Power Track is easier but can still be pushed hard.

 

Based on your feedback I am leaning more towards the Power Track. I am still on a steep learning curve, and I think it is the wiser choice. 

 

What length would you recommend (for both)?

post #5 of 15

You still haven't said which Motive you have.  The actual model will be written on the ski.

post #6 of 15
Thread Starter 

Motive 86's.

post #7 of 15

From what little you've said I get the impression you're a a relative beginner or possibly a low intermediate.  Is that correct?  Your skill level has a direct bearing on what comes next, so don't overstate your ability.  If my guess is correct, neither the Brahma or PowerTrack is a good choice, in fact the ski you're on currently is wrong.

post #8 of 15
Thread Starter 

If I go by the definitions on this website: http://www.insideoutskiing.com/levels.html, I'd say I'm between a 6 and a 7. I can confidently go down most, if not all, runs here in the Midwest pretty much in control and at a speed that I would consider fast enough to be fun. This probably is not saying much, but on the flip-side we do tend to have icy conditions a lot, not nice soft snow. That being said, I am sure there is a lot of room for improvement in my technique, and being a technically sound skier is one of my goals. As with all my other hobbies such as golf and kart racing, I am not satisfied with just being able to play and have fun, I want to achieve as much technical proficiency as realistically possible and will put in the time, effort, and resources.

 

I am looking to get a new set of skis because the Motives feel unexciting. You may be right that that is because they are not the right skis for me at this point - and your input as to what might be one is appreciated. I did try a friend's skis which are more beginner oriented, and they felt unstable. I took that to mean that they were being ridden more aggressively/faster than designed for.

 

Long story short, I am looking for a pair that I can enjoy and be challenged at my current skill level, but has enough runway left for improvement.

post #9 of 15
Where in the midwest do you ski? Reason i ask is because I ski in the midwest and there is a big difference b/w any color of run out west vs midwest. As mtcyclist said dont overestimate, especially if using the hills in the midwest as a point of reference.
post #10 of 15
Thread Starter 
Cascade Mountain, Chestnut, Sundown. Going to Lutsen this weekend. My understanding is blacks here are blues out west, at least in terms of steepness.
post #11 of 15

That rating system is European and everyone here is more familiar with this one, http://www.vail.com/ski-and-snowboard-school/assess-your-ability-level.aspx#/FirstTime which only goes to 9 rather than 13.  I've skied in the Midwest also, Buck Hill, Afton Alps, Lutsen, Spirit Mountain and a few other unmemorable places.  Even a a black run at Lutsen is pretty tame compared to a black run at major Rocky Mountain areas.  Are the Fischers the only ski you've owned?


Edited by mtcyclist - 3/11/15 at 9:25pm
post #12 of 15
Thread Starter 

The Motives are the only skis I've owned. Are you familiar with them? When I describe them as not having good turn initiation and edge grip, and feeling unexciting in general, does that align with your experience?

post #13 of 15

Based on what I can figure out from those two rating systems, you appear to be a 4 or 5 on the Vail rating system, low intermediate.  Your ski is too wide for your skill level.  You need to be on something quite a bit narrower until you get well into the intermediate level.  I would say an 80mm waist maximum and around 75 is better.  The Nordica NRGy80, Nordica Avenger 78, Salomon X-Drive 75 and 80 are good options.  

post #14 of 15
Thread Starter 

And regarding the Vail rating system, I say I am a 5, maybe a 6.

post #15 of 15
Thread Starter 

I'll see if I could try out narrower ones this weekend. That might be helpful. Thanks for the feedback!

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