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which diet to start?

post #1 of 6
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Im about 6'0 and 215 lbs. Im 18 years old, and I have been lifting weights on and off for the past 3 or 4 years. I have basiclly been overweight my whole life, but im still pretty active, being that i use to be on the basketball team and stuff like that.

But for skiing i feel that i am too big. There are two diets Im looking at.

The 1st one is body rx, Dr. Scotts diet\work out program.
My cousin is doing it and he swears by it, even though he just started. Its a 6 month program. There is no cardio involved, he says its useless. You lift 4 days a week, each day a different muscle group. So you only lift each muscle group once a week. But, here is the wierd part. Its a high protein, high carb low fat diet, high fiber. He wants us toe eat over 250 grams of protein a day! And eat a ton of carbs too (only certain kinds) - he says dont eat fruit because they have too much sugar. You eat 6 meals a day, and you eat a lot, but only certain foods. The guy is 50 years old, and looks like hes 30.

Or, i can do the atkins diet.
Which is a high fat, low carb, high protein diet. The good part about this diet is that he allows you to eat fatty foods, and high cholesterol foods, yet its supose to loose wieght quick, and improve cholesterol. Just no carbs. The body goes into a state of ketosis, which makes you not hungry, when you dont eat and carbs. THe diest works. But some Dr's Say its dangerous, and the brain needs carbs. And i would do this with a traditional work out.

They have some similarites, but some exact opposites. Im going to get both books, most likely and decide then. But if any of you have any experience with these diets, let me know how it works and stuff.
post #2 of 6
First, you're not too big for skiing. Wait 'til you meet some of the people on this board!

It's really difficult to assess your needs without knowing more of your personal history and life style. What's your diffinition of overweight? I was close to that size when I was your age, but not at all fat. What's your diet like currently?

Both of these diets you describe are rubbish, IMHO. Whether or not they're dangerous depends on your genetic makeup and current state of health.

If you are really keen on reducing your body fat level, then it behooves you to get a text book on basic nutrition (or look up educational web sites devoted to this subject) in order to gain a decent understanding of the physiology and biochemistry of human nutrition.

Once you know what's going on inside of you (both body and brain) you may find that common sense is the best approach to achieving your health or athletic goals.

Good luck!
post #3 of 6
In terms of protein intake, athletes invariably fall inot either of 2 categories:

Protein Pushers, who are weight lifters, body builders, football players who they that they can never get enough protein.

Protein avoiders: runners, triathletes, dancers who eat no protein whatsoever, but try to eat a high carb low fat diet.

Ironically, both these groups can suffer from poor athletic performance due to nutritional imbalances. Protein addicts sometimes end up eating high fat/high cholesterol foods, that leave the muscles unfueled, and may eventually cause heart disease.
For every gram of protein consumed above what is needed for tissue maintenance, between 1 and 1.5 mg. of calcium is excreted {Source:B. Lieberman: Avoiding the Fracture Zone Nutr Action Heal Letter April 1998;25{2}:2-7}. Since many people have an already low calcium intake, this can eventually be harmful to the bone mass.

I don't even want to go into the problems associated with ketosis. Suffice it to say, that the gyms are filled with obese people who tried the Atkins diet back in the 80s.

Some protein avoiders tend to be deficient in iron and zinc,which are essential minerals for athletic performance.

Not only are these nutritional profiles unbalanced, the fitness profiles are faulty. In order to maintain optimum weight, you must be healthy, and being healthy involves parrticipating in a well rounded fitness program that includes weight training AND cardio. Additionally, the program needs to include exercises for power coordination, a bit of flexibility and BALANCE!

What Badrat has stated is extremely important. Without knowing your genetic makeup, nobody, and certainly not anyone talking to you over the internet, can really advise you of whats best for YOU. Many of the topics on this forum have links to nutritional sites, but again, you need to make intelligent common sense choices based on your own individual metabolism. Good Luck!
post #4 of 6
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thats for the info. I already took biology and honors human anatomy in school, so I know whats going on. I do think the low carbs diet is kind of wierd. And I just started taking vitamic C pills.
post #5 of 6
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oh, i forgot to add that one of my dads friends lost about 50 pounds on the atkins diet.
post #6 of 6
Yeah, there are people who lost tons of weight on that diet. I don't know one person who was able to keep it off.

Here's the thing. You need to find something that you can stick with, realistically, and is not so radical that if you stop while your'e on vacation it will cause a reverse reaction. It seems the stricter the dieting pattern many people have, the more likely they are liable to experience a backlash that comes close to obesity.

Years ago I took an applied physiology seminar at Columbia University. The professor cited some sobering research: if you define the cure for obesity as being able to hold your ideal weight for 5 consecutive years, there is a greater incidence of curing cancer! Yikes!
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