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Cheap lodging or hostels with the Epic pass in EU and Japan?

post #1 of 6
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I'm considering getting the Vail Epic pass for Verbier, Switzerland, Les 3 Vallées, France, and Niseko United, Japan. To be clear, they mean:

 

5 consecutive days at Verbier

5 consecutive days at Les 3 Vallees

5 consecutive days at Niseko

 

So 15 days in total?

 

The problem with Verbier and 3 Vallees is that to get the 5-day pass you MUST stay in *in-resort* lodging in Switzerland and for France, within the zip codes  - 73550, 73120, 73570, 73600, 73440, and 73140.

 

Has anyone been able to find affordable lodging in these places while doing your Epic pass days? I'm used to staying at hostel bunks for $40 USD a night.

 

I'm thinking that Switzerland is out of the question because it's all in-resort lodging. I'm guessing $200+ USD a night at a minimum.

 

A 5-day pass for Verbier is ~$334 USD, so the Epic Pass gets you a "free" $334-worth of passes. And probably $1000+ just for lodging...

 

http://www.verbinet.com/ski-passes

 

For Les 3 Vallees, a 5-day pass is $290 USD. Good cheap hostels in the zip codes 73550, 73120, 73570, 73600, 73440, and 73140?

 

http://www.les3vallees.com/images/pdf/tarifs_hiver_1415_haute_saison_en.pdf

 

For Niseko, a 5-day pass is $231 USD. There's Kanon Backpackers for $40 a night.

 

http://www.niseko.ne.jp/en/lift/

 

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post #2 of 6

I'm a bit confused by your plan.

 

Are you planning to visit all three ski areas in one season? If so, then you'll be spending a pretty large amount of money on flights, especially if you're doing them in separate trips. The flights to/from Japan will be expensive no matter which way you slice it. Moreover, the Epic Pass is $769 for next season, and the passes you've listed add up to $855. So unless you're using the Epic Pass for US skiing as well, then it's not really saving you much money relative to what you'll be spending in total for your trip(s).

 

If money is somewhat tight but you want to do an international trip, then you'd be better off picking a large ski area in Europe and doing a week-long trip there. Or if you want to do more than six or seven days of skiing, then you could do a two-week trip in one of the really gigantic ski areas or pick two large areas that are quite close to each other and spend a week in each.

post #3 of 6
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Yeah, I'll be using the Epic pass for a lot of US skiing. I just want to see if there is affordable accommodation that also satisfies the accommodation requirements on the Epic pass. If not, I'll just get the Epic Local pass and buy the EU and JP passes directly from their respective resorts.
post #4 of 6

On the Epic Pass site, the international resorts for next year haven't been confirmed yet. But if they are Verbier and the 3 Valleys, then the cheapest accommodation you're going to find in either will be apartments. But if you're traveling on your own, then the price won't be as cheap as the hostels you're used to. Also, you might find the selection to be limited if you're not staying for 7 nights, since a lot of places in the Alps are set up for 7-night stays running from Saturday to Saturday or Sunday to Sunday.

 

You're probably better off getting the local pass and planning your international trips independently. For example, you could find a relatively cheap place in Bourg-St Maurice and use the funicular every day to get to Les Arcs (part of the Paradiski area). Or, you could ski the Arlberg area by staying in a cheap place in St. Jakob, Flirsch, or even Landeck and taking a bus to St. Anton every morning.

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If not, I'll just get the Epic Local pass and buy the EU and JP passes directly from their respective resorts.

 

This is what I would suggest so that you are not limited to those resorts. Consider staying with AirBnB when visiting Switzerland, they have great hosts and nice places there (and it's much cheaper than any of the hotels).

post #6 of 6

With respect to Japan, whilst Niseko is fine it is more expensive and westernized than most other resorts. I appreciate that it is on the epic pass but if you were going for longer there are lots of cheaper options. There are over 400 resorts in Japan to choose from, though many are pretty small.

 

I recommend people allow around US$80 per day for mid range accommodation, food and lift tickets. Obviously you can do it for more and for a little less. And you need to add in your travel costs.

 

If you are looking at a longer stay getting a season pass becomes worthwhile.

 

If you hunt around you can probably get cheaper back packer accommodation that the one you quoted.

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