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post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
Hey folks. Just doing a little pre-emptive damage control here, but have any of you out there gone through a recent weight gain. As in Significant-type weight gain? I'll break it down for you and let's see what you think.

In the last two years I've gained about 40 pounds. A sort of "filling out", if you will. I didn't get FAT, mind you, I just got thicker. I recently turned 30, so some of the old war wounds are starting to hurt. I'm still active and strong and I still ski aggressively. My question is this... Should I be expecting any problems in my ankle/knee/hip regions? I'd hate to have to stop skiing at age 35 because I didn't do the right things. Any words of wisdom out there? Curiosity mostly.

Smell ya later,
Spag :
post #2 of 16
I'm 5'7" and I weigh 225 lbs in ski trim.

I'm heavier at the moment because I packed on some weight recovering from an auto accident but I'm hoping to be back down to the 220's by the time the snow flys.

Yes, I carry a lot of muscle but I'm also a fat bastard. Picture that fat, balding cop from NYPD blue, although I have a prettier face. :

Just make sure you do a lot of conditioning on your legs. Leg presses and nautilus machines. You'll be fine.
post #3 of 16
Originally posted by Notorious Spag:

In the last two years I've gained about 40 pounds. A sort of "filling out", if you will. I didn't get FAT, mind you, I just got thicker.
40 pounds is a lot of weight. unless your an NFL linebacker, 7 feet tall, or on serious steroids, i doubt that even half of that is muscle. your body fat has probably gone up a lot. get it tested. if it's more than about 15%, you need to lose weight.
post #4 of 16
I have this little trick I've used for the whole 29 years I've been in the fitness industry.

I started teaching in the 70s, on New York City's Upper East Side. Lots of doctors and financial types. Type A personalities, bad backs.

I will shamelessly say that since many of these were, well sort of cute guys, I started to learn a whole lot about bad backs.
Alright, flame me, but hey, I was jsut a kid! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Anyways, my point. From doing all the post rehab exercises, I ended up never ever in my life having a back problem!!!

When I first started skiing, I had some concern about ACL injuries, since basically, that would mess up my career big time. A few times a week, I do post rehab knee exercises, even though I've never, knock wood, had a knee injury.

This all sounds weird, does'nt it, but this is where the fitness industry is going. Physical therapist are working more closely with fitness professionala.

The result, is a major emphasis on prevention.

Definitely leg presses are a good idea, sonce they are closed chain exercises, which use hamstrings, glutes and quads. But if you have ever had an ankle injury, your proprioception gets messed up, and its important to do balance exercises for the ankle. I seem to recall you use a Vew Do board? Stay with it! There are also pages and pages of ideas in this forum.

As far as weight goes, are you significantly overweight? Added body weight can add pressure on the joints, making you more susceptible to injury.

perhaps the extra weight comes from the stress of taking on the ski school director job? [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #5 of 16
I'd say lose it NOW, while you're still relatively young. It only gets harder as you get older and you'll save ALOT of wear and tear on your body in the coming years. That 40 pounds translates into several hundred extra pounds on your joints when you add the g-forces of skiing. Mutiply that by all the runs you'll be taking in the next decade and you could have one hurtin' bod by the time 40 rolls around.

I've gained about 40 pds in the last few years and i'm currently losing them. I've only lost 10 so far but feel MUCH better so I expect to feeel GREAT once 30 or so are gone. After that i'm planning to put on a few pds of muscle and hit 40 (in a yr and a half) in the best shape of my life. Whoo Hooo!!!
post #6 of 16
Trey wrote :
...and you'll save ALOT of wear and tear on your body in the coming years.
Not only on your body joints, also on your heart's valves
post #7 of 16
As an expert in aging and sports, I can tell you all of the above is good advice. If your weight gain is added muscle from training you don't have much to worry about. I know I don't need to tell you to stay away from steroids if you are looking to ski a long time. The most important thing is keep your back in shape. Squats, deadlifts and ab crunches all help stabilize your back. I prefer free weights because you develop balance and stability along with strength. I think leg press machines allow you to overdevelop your legs (some of them actually take your back out of the load path) without developing balance skills. Also, protect your ACLs by developing strong hamstrings. Skiing (and biking) tend to create an imbalance of strong quads/weak hamstrings which contributes to ACL sprains. BTW since you are a SS director, get the Vermont Safety Research ACL Awareness Program for your whole ski school if you haven't already done so. It's inexpensive and only takes an hour or so and it's really effective at preventing knee sprains.
And don't worry about your age. I'm 54 and I still ski the zipperline.
post #8 of 16
Hi Jdowling. We have a whole bunch of threads in Health and Fitness on ACL injuries, with some of the info about Vermont Ski Safety.

Hopefully by now, I brainwashed everybody as to the importance of working the hamstrings, but its great when others reinforce that point.

Spag, honey. The first step is to figure out why you gain the weight. Eating habit change, activty? In being an SSD, did you actually do less skiing. All these things are significant.

Make the changes needed, and be very patient with the results. What all my years in the fitness industry has taught me, is that the slower you lose the weight, the easier it is to keep it off.

Good Luck!

[ July 15, 2002, 06:59 AM: Message edited by: Lisamarie ]
post #9 of 16
Thread Starter 
Whoa. Hey, Thanks everybody!!! I guess I didn't state things quite correctly on the original post. Yes I've gained the weight, but on purpose. At 6' two years ago I was scrawny and lifeless at 160 lbs. I was working MANY hours between Snowmaking and Ski School and simply felt weak... so when I started working fewer hours I was able to begin losing some of the bad habits I'd developed. (Smoking, Black Coffee, Twinkies and Mountain Dew. OK I still guzzle the Dew, but 3 out 4 ain't bad)

I feel a lot better at 200 lbs than I did at 160 and I'm skiing stronger than ever. I've gotten bulkier than I'm used to, but it's mostly meat. My main concern was the simple physics of it all. There HAS to be more PSI on the joints when hitting kickers and carving trenches, Right? The suggestion about the Hammies is well taken. Unfortunately LM, I seem to have lost my VewDew Board!!! AAAAAH!! Guess I'll Have to get another.

thanks again and keep the info coming! I'm mostly curious about what sorts of damage control I should start.

Spag :
post #10 of 16
At 160 you were a scrawny bug. I'm 6' but don't think could imagine myself less than 195- 200 with any muscle mass. I'm not that different shape wise when I was in HS, 5-11 ~ 185lbs and now back in the same size jeans I was those 20 years ago. The only thing joint wise I am worried about is running long distances to keep in shape.. Know too many people my size that ran for their fitness and ended up wrecking their knees. So I only go for one run a week about 30 minutes as fast as I can go. Right now I'm biking 250 km a week commuting to work which is more than enough for me.
For your concern on stress on joints from hard skiing , well can't see it. There's a impact landing a jump but most is absorbed in muscle which you now have more of. If none of the new weight is of the jelly type then no worries. My first day of the season pains have been nothing since I got in better shape. The only thing that causes me any aches are my runs. Think its I've got the wind to drive myself faster than my legs want to go. I would think that there's a lot more impact load on joints from an hour of running even on grass than a whole day skiing.

[ July 17, 2002, 10:18 AM: Message edited by: dougw ]
post #11 of 16
It is interesting the differing perspectives on well being and weight.
I am 6' and tip the scales just over 185#. History had me a scrawny kid and only 160# when I married in my late twenties. Over the last ten years I have put away many pairs of trowsers thinking I would wear them again when I shed the "winter storage". At my present weight, I feel heavy and slow, not strong. Now I am increasing my level of activities, and decreasing my intake in order to "lighten up". So far (not very) It all feels real good! I plan to be better off at the start of the ski season than I left off this past year.


post #12 of 16
Interesting comment and very true. Of course it depends on build. When I was out of shape I think I topped out at around 220 and 36-34 pants were getting tight. Now back in 34-34 no problem. I'm pretty sure that was my pant size in HS and absolutely sure it was in University. Now in HS I had to go to that size not for my waist but to get my thighs to fit in jeans as I rowed and played rugby.

[ July 18, 2002, 07:53 AM: Message edited by: dougw ]
post #13 of 16
Originally posted by Lisamarie:

I started teaching in the 70s, on New York City's Upper East Side. Lots of doctors and financial types... bad backs.

What from, the fingernail marks?
post #14 of 16
Cal G
Funny isn't it. people have quite fixed perceptions.
I spent from 17-32 weighing 48-53kg. The range depended on the amount of exercise I got & the amount of muscle I carried.

At 32 I developed an illness that had me unable to exercise or even move around a lot - for quite a while - in about 6 months I gained nearly 20kg

At my current weight I feel shocking - tired lethargic & my back can ache after a long day on my feet(I am just not as fit & healthy as I should be). However whenever I emntion that I need to lose weight - everyone pooh whoos the idea.

During summer 2000/1 I started to regain my health a little & with the increase in exercise(bush walking, jogging, walking, rollerblading) I started to lose weight. Over last winter(June 2001) I suddenly started losing a LOT of weight - despite eating a TON of food. My boss was starting to think I had cancer or something. The waistband on my work suit was nearly sliding off my hips. When the warmer weather hit & I started wearing more fitted clothes there was this big 'ahha' thing going on -people suddenly realised how small my natural build was - with all that weight loss I was still VERY well muscled & covered(still about 5-10kg over my natural weight). Over this last summer I was quite unwell again & regained the weight due to lack of exercise. NOW though they are all encouraging me to lose the weight.
They now realise that we don't ALL fit into standard weight for height charts.
post #15 of 16
Originally posted by irul&ublo:
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I started teaching in the 70s, on New York City's Upper East Side. Lots of doctors and financial types... bad backs.

What from, the fingernail marks?</font>[/quote]Well, there was that Christmas when my students made me a cat'o'nine tails to match my gym uniform....
post #16 of 16

similar situation. very "lean"(150-160) until recently, then "suddenly," since about 35 (i'm 41 in november), a gradual filling-out, amplified a little by moving from previous activity (running, swimming) to what i do now (weights and road biking). also, my particular body clock. (some kids were shaving and filled-out in high school; i've been quite the late bloomer. lamented it then, happy about it now.
i find the bike GREAT for the areobic work, and for minimizing the pounding the joints take from running. (i feel the results of the many miles i put in and am very glad i stopped several years ago and hopped on the bike. the legs stay strong and can take intensity better than the running.)
get on it NOW, by the way.
i'm about 195 now, and climbing. keep the weight gain to lean muscle rather than fat tissue and you're fine. last, eat right, get your rest, become acquainted with your water bottle.
as has been said, it ain't so much the amount of weight as much as what that weight is made of.

[ July 18, 2002, 12:02 PM: Message edited by: ryan ]
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