Originally Posted by brenster21
Well, at the resort I work at I get a about 40 percent commission rate for privates and 9.43 an hour as a level 1 instructor (part time but pay rate is the same either way). I personally wouldn't mind a lower commission if it meant getting a higher hourly pay.
At Vail, cert 1s get $10.95/hr to start and all Instructors get an extra $6/hr for request privates (which = $39 on a full day lesson that costs $850+ or an extra $19.50 on a half day lesson that costs $625+, so a commission rate of less than 4 to 5%). Breck and Copper pay similar hourly with request privates paying 150% of your teaching rate- this works out better for instructors with a teaching rate above $12/hr but worse for the newbies.
Originally Posted by FlyingFish
At the dinky resort I work at, the commission rate is 25% of the cost of the lesson, plus your hourly. However... that's all dependent on them being able accommodate the requests. And instructors who find themselves booked in on kids camps for the whole season, often can't get their schedules freed up to accommodate their requests. So it ends up being a moot point.
At Whistler, the pay scale is a convoluted byzantine schematic that I do not understand.
But a base rate of 9.43? That is just brutal.
I'm a Cert 2 and teach a good % of request privates- getting $9.43/hr plus 25% of the cost of my lessons would mean A HUGE PAY RAISE for me (even factoring in the times I have not been able to do requests because of kids program commitments).
Resorts like Copper & Breck have something like 25% instructor turnover each year with both resorts hiring and training lots of full time instructors with NO TEACHING EXPERIENCE each November/December. As one Vail trainer said with a sheepish grin, see all those guys over there doing inexperienced new hire training, they'll be teaching clients next week. IMO, Vail does a lot better job than many CO resorts with their new hire training- I know of one I-70 mountain that typically has two weekends of training before turning their inexperienced new hires loose on the public, but has had to condense it into 2 days due to poor weather some seasons.
Is 2 to 10 days training enough for an inexperienced new hire to be able to competently teach never-evers how to ski? Maybe, but why do 83 percent of first-time skiers and snowboarders never return to the slopes for a second visit according to the National Ski Areas Association?
Overall, I think most ski instructors love the sport and do their best to deliver a good lesson but feel a higher percentage of younger instructors would stick with teaching if compensation was increased. I realize that some resorts don't have the clientele to be able to pay more, but think that the big destination resorts could increase the overall experience and certification level of their instructors (and reduce their new hire training costs) if they adopted a compensation model similar to Aspen/Snowmass (or the 25 to 40% commission models mentioned above).