Originally Posted by skier31
Aspen commits significant resources to training. There are lots of clinics led by excellent trainers. Great training makes better ski instructors. The pay scale at Aspen is more than at other Colorado resorts which helps attract and keep good instructors.
I fully agree with this and think that Vail does a good job with training which is one reason that most Vail customers are happy with the lessons they get.
OTOH, an Aspen Cert 1/FS 1 can start the season at $20/hr and work their way up to mid-$30+ (on non-requests & $40+ on request privates) while a Cert 2/FS I/CS I with similar experience at Vail is making less than $15/hr ($21 on request privates) all season. I think this is why I know of about half a dozen former Vail Inc. Instructors/Trainers who have happily made the jump to Aspen in recent years (and don't know of anyone moving the other direction)
Originally Posted by COBillsFan
Sure, different roles, but there is a noticeable sales element to instructing none the less, especially in customer retention and referrals.
A quick search shows me that a full week of private lessons at Telluride will generate ~$3500 a week for the mountain. In a 120 day season, assuming the best instructor gets nothing but private lessons every day, they’ll be associated with $85,800 in revenue.
Again, I’m curious as to what OP feels is a fair cut, because 10-20% isn’t enough, is 30-50% more in line with their expectation? If so, I’d love to see another industry where one who is associated with less than $100K annually make similar income.
You are correct about the selling element/customer retention/referrals, etc. So, if a friend of a friend contacts me directly for a ski lesson, buys a lift ticket from the mountain I work at, then has me teach them for the day, what do you think is a fair cut for me and a fair cut for the resort (of the lesson charge, not the lift ticket)?
Aspen charges less for private lessons than Vail but pays their instructors more. I assume that they don't run the ski school as a loss leader, so I think the Aspen pay scale is much more in line with what other major resorts should pay. Personally, I would be happy to work for 30% of lesson revenue on non-requests & 50% on requests.
Edited by MEfree30 - 3/9/15 at 11:56am