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Recommendations for all-mountain all-condition ski for bigger skier

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After a few years hiatus from skiing due to kids, I'm wrapping up my second season back, and looking to replace my decade-old skis.  I'm currently on K2 Escape 5500's (174).  Not counting the 3 years off, I've been skiing for about 23 years.  I would rank myself as a strong intermediate (I ski with patrollers & PSIA 2/3 instructors and I would rank them all as advance/experts, so I don't put myself in their league).  Looking for something that my large 6'1 220lb self could do well on.

 

I ski 25+ days in New York.  I don't have the luxury of picking the nice days, so I'll be out in everything...mashed potatoes in the early season, then on to crud, hardpack, ice...

 

I'm medium radius turn skier, but occasionally the run will be clear and I will care some long turns.  Want something that is capable in the trees, too. I will ski everything at our local hill from greens to double blacks and glades.  I ski them safely and confidently but I'm definitely not setting any records.  I ski on a 1000' hill and with the exception of one steep (40deg) headwall and some steep glades, there is nothing crazy.  For the most part, the hill is 90% groomed.

 

I need to find a good fit for me, and financially, I have to pick one ski.  There is a demo day this weekend that I'm going to try to go to (if I can find a babysitter).  I'm thinking that something in the 80-85mm range.  I'm not sure what skis they're going to have, but I'm hoping they'll have some X-Power 810 Ti, Brahmas, Experience 80/84, and RTM 81.

 

Any recommendations for a guy in my situation?

post #2 of 16

Blizzard or Kastle.  End of debate.

 

/every "which ski for me" thread on Epic

post #3 of 16

I'm 6'4" 240lbs and switched to 187 Brahmas from 175 Volkl Tigershark 12ft this year to gain more floatation on fresh snow. I ski 95% of the time on groomed trails. Love my Brahmas, very stable, easy to turn, quick edge to edge but the other skis you listed also got great reviews. So demoing should help you a lot. But imo at your weight to gain more off-trail floatation, you need be in the 85-95 mm range. RTM 81 and Experience 80 may not give you enough floatation. I think Volkl is introducing a 86mm width RTM next year. Experience 88, Brahmas, Salomon X-drive 8.8, and Kendo would worth demoing. I was between Kendo and Brahma and after demoing Brahma was the clear winner for me.

post #4 of 16
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Thanks, Turks.  I was wondering how the edge transitioning was on the 85-90mm skis.   Like I said, my skis are old technology.  I'm curious to see how differently the new stuff performs.

post #5 of 16

The transition from 79mm Tigersharks to 88mm Brahmas was seamless. However, I had chance to demo 98mm Bonafides. Awesome skis, more stable than Brahmas, felt great on ice too but required a considerable effort to initiate turns for me. My legs felt tired after a little while. Don't know how narrow your old skis but you sound like a good skier. 85-90 mm shouldn't be a big deal.

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The old skies are 107/68/97.  These are the skis that were commonplace around the 2000 timeframe, so a bit different geometry.

post #7 of 16
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Also would like to try the Latigo 177.  78mm waist is a bit skinnier than I was looking, but it seems like it could be fun.

post #8 of 16
You ski on a 1,000 ft hill in New York. You should stay in the low to mid 70's for width. If you went lower (as in slalom) i'd say good, but you won't as everyone will chime in with their pet skis from the west or their wider is better theories.
We've been through this debate before with New Jersey. 187 is also way too long for that hill unless you just want to make huge fast turns.
I would suggest a good used ski btw so you can get back into it with not much at stake. Just be sure they have not "detuned" the tips and tails which essentially destroys carving skis.
post #9 of 16
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Originally Posted by Tog View Post

I would suggest a good used ski btw so you can get back into it with not much at stake.

 

In for a penny, in for a pound, I guess.  I passed the initial patrol skiing eval and will be doing my OEC/S&T next season, so I'm not on the fence at all about being back to skiing (giving it up for a couple years was not something I did because I wanted to).  I like what people are saying about the Latigo's and RTM 81's (my father in law skis those and likes them).

 

Like you said, there's a lot of hype about widths, the bottom line is I want something that I can take anywhere on the hill, and will be capable skiing groomed-out runs or untracked ones first thing in the morning.  Ran my old skis last weekend in some breakable crust and did not like how they felt.

 

I'll definitely seek out the advice this weekend from the other guys on the hill, I just found out about the demo day last minute, and the amount of time I have is going to be limited.

post #10 of 16

I assume you are skiing at Holiday Valley?  I have to agree with @Tog here. If anything, you could go low 80-83 but anything pretty much else is overkill.  

post #11 of 16
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I assume you are skiing at Holiday Valley?  I have to agree with @Tog here. If anything, you could go low 80-83 but anything pretty much else is overkill.

 

Nope, out at Greek in CNY.  I'll take a look at see what they have in the high 70's low 80's.

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" the bottom line is I want something that I can take anywhere on the hill, and will be capable skiing groomed-out runs or untracked ones first thing in the morning."

This sounds like the deal breaker for you. If you need to float with 220lbs weight, you need something wider than mid 70s. Anyway good luck with your demos. If you decide to buy new skis, skiessentials.com (based in Stowe) has good end of season deals going on. Check them out, no tax + free shipping + free binding mounting. Could save you $$.

post #13 of 16
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It's not all to often we get too much to float on, but it occasionally happens.  Lake effect usually has a bigger impact just north of the hill.  This year's been pretty lousy.  There's a few guys that have a few skis to pick from based on conditions, but also quite a few that have a one-ski quiver.  When I buy, I'll be focusing on the conditions we see 90% of the time, versus the one's we see 10%.

post #14 of 16
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Originally Posted by Partizan Turks View Post
 

This sounds like the deal breaker for you. If you need to float with 220lbs weight, you need something wider than mid 70s. Anyway good luck with your demos. If you decide to buy new skis, skiessentials.com (based in Stowe) has good end of season deals going on. Check them out, no tax + free shipping + free binding mounting. Could save you $$.

 

 

Are we talking untracked powder or untracked cord......:D   The  reality is how many days does greek have with more than 4" and then in how many minutes does it become tracked an pushed.  You dont need float in 4-6"

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Are we talking confuse untracked powder or untracked cord......:D   The  reality is how many days does greek have with more than 4" and then how many minutes does it become tracked an pushed.

 

FinnDog's skied at Greek, obviously :beercheer:

post #16 of 16
Start looking at qualities you want in a ski . You'll use it for patrolling? You'll need something that can wedge and side slip decently without fighting you too much. I'd think that would mean not too much sidecut and not too soft. Ironically, your 5500 escapes may be decent for patrolling.
You want metal or not?
Joe Shmoe likes x ski doesn't mean much esp if you haven't skied with them.
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