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Comparing rossignal unique vs atomic affinity skis

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My wife skied some affinity 146 demos this weekend and liked them. They had bright green areas on them and I don't remember seeing air or pure on them. Now that we are home I'm trying o find ratings and prices and am seeing that their are different models. She liked them. They were 146 cm

I had also found some some rossignal unique skis online that looked good in a 149 cm

They are both beginner to intermediate, both hybrid camber rocker, both medium to light on flex.

My wife is 5'10 165, and said she liked the affinity skis. She was able to mostly stay parallel and said it was easy to keep her feet together during a turn.

Would the rossignals be too beginner level? Wife and I are mostly east coast groomer skiers and occasionally go out west. Well probably always be groomer cruisers. Wife is more cautious than I.

Any opinions welcome on these or similar?
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Was it this one, http://www.atomic.com/en-US/Products/alpine/skis/all-mountain/AFFINITY_PLUS/AASS00680.aspx?filter=468%3a3%3b534%3a1 ?  I think 146 is much too short unless she is an absolute beginner.  At her height and weight, she should be on something close to 160.  The 146 is only about at her chin.  The ski has rocker so it skis much shorter than the stated length.  Unless she does not want to progress she should be on a longer ski.  Yes, it will take some getting used to a longer ski, but it provide more stability.

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YES, that is exactly them!!

I looked all over and could not find that specific ski.

 

This length thing is annoying (no offense to the great feedback here).

We were in Beech a few weeks ago, and I asked the guy what length she should be on.

He said, about to her chin and gave her some rental 141 cm. (That place didn't do demos, etc.)

 

This weekend we were at Winterplace, and I upgraded her to the demos, and I asked, do you have different ones, different lengths, he said, these should be good for her, and brought out these 146 afinity plus ones.

 

I come on here, and (even before now) had several people say she should be on much longer skis.

 

I personally am 6'3" 240 and ski 178 Atomic Super cross skis.  I've had them for almost 10 years and love them.  I've never seen anyone wih skis quite like mine.  I used them on ice, and took them to Breck last March and they did great.

 

She said she liked how easy the Afinity ones were to turn and keep parallel.  I guess I can't quite follow how staying short will limit her ability to get better, if shes confident turning then, how does that slow down her progress?

 

We are going back to Breck on April 1st and I am thinking I may try to get her on something around 15x on an all mountain rocker style.

What I fear is her getting something too long, allowing her feet to cross and twisting a knee.

 

Thanks for any clarification about this situation.  We've been skiing together now for 4 winters (only get maybe 4-6 days a season in) and is really bugging me for her own skis.

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As for the length, I guess we are just going to have to try some longer skis in colorado and see how she likes them.  I just worry about her struggling to control them.

 

As for these two skis, it looks like one has no edges on the bottom and the other does?  I could be reading that wrong or it was a different affinity I found.

 

Not sure exactly what that means or how to tell or if its important.

Help appreciated.

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A shorter ski or one with a short running sruface(skis with rocker) will always be easier to turn.  But the ease of turning comes at a price, namely stability.  Several decades ago, when I was all of 5'9", I skied on 210-215cm skis.  Fifteen years ago I was on 183cm, then I went to 161cm.  My current skis are 168,170 and 174.  Next season I'm adding a 177 and 184.   Although the lengths are quite different, the running surface is very similar across all of them.  The lengths of my skis have generally followed the industry trends:  skis used to be quite long, then got a lot shorter and are now getting longer with the advent of rocker and early rise.  The biggest problem with really short skis is that because turning is quite easy, people don't progress because they have no real need to progress, but the short ski actually holds them back from what they could be doing, like skiing off piste.  A too short ski will also get knocked around quite a bit in crud and be a lot less stable.

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As for these two skis, it looks like one has no edges on the bottom and the other does?  I could be reading that wrong or it was a different affinity I found.

No edges?  I can't imagine what would lead you to that assumption.  There are several versions of the Rossignol and several versions of the Affinity and they are all alpine skis and all have edges.

 

When you go to CO, get her something around 152-155 and see how she does skiing it all day.  If she's OK with it, get something 155-160 and see how she does with that.  Since she liked the Affinity, I would try to locate someplace that rents the Affinity and stick with the same model and just change lengths.

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One more thing.  Is she getting lessons from a certified instructor or are you teaching her?

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As for the edges comment.

One of those skis I looked at said it was a flat bottom.  Just forget that part because I can't find it anywhere now.

 

I think when we hit Colorado in a few weeks I'll target around a 152 and let her try that.  Maybe if the day goes well, we'll ride back out there and try to swap for a 156-160 and see how she does day two.

 

I'm hoping the ski shop allows that swapping out if you're paying the demo price, since isn't that the point of the demos?

 

Last year we used Pioneer Sports right beside walmart in Frisco, I plan to go there again this year.

 

We don't have multiple sets of skis, as we don't go enough for that.

 

She is not currently taking lessons, we just go out and ski and I try to add some technique pointers as needed.  Its leisure for us, so I don't want to make it some difficult training like task.  

post #8 of 8
There should be no problem swapping skis if you're paying demo rates instead of just rental rates. I would advise calling them and finding out what they have in their demo program as well as what is in their rental fleet. It might be a lot cheaper to rent depending on what skis they rent.

Skiing is a recreational pursuit for all of us here. Get her a private lesson from someone who's at least a level 2 and level 3 is even better. Like anything else, the better a person is at it the more enjoyable it is. She will gain a lot more from a 60 or 90 minute private lesson than from an entire day skiing with you. It is never a good idea to teach relatives to ski. I never attempted to teach our son and I never tell my wife how to ski, nor do I give "pointers" unless she asks a specific question. I don't personally know any instructors who've tried to teach family members to ski.
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