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Chicago Week 2017 - What Destination Do You Want?

Poll Results: CMSC Chicago Week 2017 - What destination should should we choose for the trip?

Poll expired: May 17, 2015 This is a multiple choice poll
  • 50% of voters (8)
    Snowbird / Alta (Where to stay Salt Lake City or Snowbird? - post in comments)
  • 56% of voters (9)
    Vail
  • 12% of voters (2)
    Aspen (staying in Aspen or Snowmass? - post in comments)
  • 6% of voters (1)
    Breckenridge
  • 31% of voters (5)
    Telluride
  • 31% of voters (5)
    Jackson Hole (Where to stay at Jackson Hole or in town of Jackson? - post in comments)
  • 6% of voters (1)
    Copper Mountain
  • 6% of voters (1)
    Winter Park
  • 6% of voters (1)
    Beaver Creek
  • 6% of voters (1)
    Sun Valley
  • 25% of voters (4)
    Park City
  • 6% of voters (1)
    Lake Tahoe (north - Squaw Valley, Alpine Meadows, Northstar, etc. OR south - Heavenly? - post in comments)
  • 6% of voters (1)
    Banff, Canada (Lake Louise, Sunshine, Mt. Norquay)
  • 6% of voters (1)
    Steamboat
  • 6% of voters (1)
    Crested Butte
  • 6% of voters (1)
    Keystone
  • 0% of voters (0)
    Taos
  • 0% of voters (0)
    Big Sky
  • 6% of voters (1)
    Whitefish Mountain Resort (formerly Big Mountain)
  • 12% of voters (2)
    Other
16 Total Votes  
post #1 of 25
Thread Starter 

It's that time of the year again when we select the destination for Chicago Week. Last spring we decided to go to Whistler Blackcomb, Canada, for Chicago Week 2016. So we now need to decide where we want to go for Chicago Week 2017.

 

Here is a list of recent Chicago Week destinations with the year and number of participants. 

2016 Whistler Blackcomb (xxx)

2015 Mt. Bachelor, Oregon (124)

2014 Big Sky, Montana (273)

2013 Aspen / Snowmass, CO (325)

012 Steamboat, CO (300)

2011 Telluride, CO (250)

2010 Park City, Utah (190)

2009 Lake Tahoe, CA (175)

2008 Breckenridge, CO (240)

2007 Sun Valley, ID (231)

2006 Aspen, CO (472) 

 

Where would YOU AND/OR YOUR CLUB like to go for Chicago Week 2017? It can be an area we have gone in the past or a brand new destination for CW. 

 

We would like to get some feedback from actual CW participants.

 

If you post here please state if you are a member of a CMSC club along with the club name and state if you are commenting on behalf of your club of if your comments are your own personal choices. Please vote using the poll ALSO please post destinations you or your club would like to see Chicago Week 2017 go please list up to three areas ranked in order of preference.

 

CRITERIA to consider for a Chicago Week destination:

* Air Service—Availability, quantity & cost

* Ease of travel—Short or long travel days

* Lodging—Availability, quantity & cost

* Terrain—Amount for a week of skiing, for ALL ability levels

* Single or multiple +mountains/resorts—Multiple accessible on one lift ticket?

* Conference space—For Chicago Week functions w/200-400 people

* Restaurants & bars—Number and variety

* Resort town—Walkable or short shuttles?

* Trip pricing -

* MOST important—What will sell it to your club?

 

post #2 of 25
Thread Starter 

A Chicago Metropolitan Ski Council (CMSC) Board member recently sent out an email to past participants on CMSC Chicago Week trips.  This email asked which destinations the clubs/people would like Chicago Week 2017 to go.  CMSC has received a flood of email responses, what a shock - NOT! 

 

These emails included many varied destinations the clubs and/or individual participants would like to see Chicago Week 2017 (CW 2017) go along with quite a bit of commentary on why they would like certain destinations.  Many of the emails also contained some commentary on things they may like or dislike about CMSC Chicago Week trips.  Trying to summarize the contents of all those emails would be a daunting task.  Then how does the CMSC get the clubs communicating with each other to discuss the advantages/disadvantages of all those areas and why certain destinations have more appeal to them/their club than other destinations?  That led to the creation of this forum thread to, hopefully, get all of these people communicating with each other to help "steer" the CMSC Chicago Week selection committee to make the best possible choice for the destination of Chicago Week 2017.

 

So please create an account for yourself here at epicski.com, join the Chicago Metropolitan Ski Council group and tell us your thoughts about what the destination for Chicago Week 2017 should be and why.

 

 

 

The poll at the beginning of this thread was limited to 20 possible selections.  Included were most of the destinations suggested in some of the early emails received in response to the email sent out by the CMSC asking for destination suggestions for CW 2017.  If you are interested in an area that is not listed in the poll vote for "Other" and post a comment on what that "Other" is.  For example Ogden, Utah, was suggested with skiing at Snowbasin & Powder Mountain, that is a very good suggestions.  Others included some of the lesser known Canadian areas, Revelstoke, Red Mountain & Big White.  So please feel free to vote "Other" and post a comment on what the other is and why you/your club are interested in it.

post #3 of 25

I love Snowbird and Alta.  Exploring at these resorts can be very rewarding!  You can get a joint lift ticket for the two areas and ski between them.  Plenty of skiing for a full week of skiing for people of all ability levels.  Easy to get to flying between Chicago / Salt Lake City though airlines have cut flights and downsized aircrafts going into SLC thus reducing air seats and increasing prices.  Where to stay?  Staying at Snowbird would be expensive and there would be limited restaurants & bars.  Staying in SLC would be less expensive and allow vast options for dinning & drinking, but the group would have to shuttle to/from the slopes everyday.  Staying in SLC the group could also do ski days at other locations, Solitude, Brighton, Snowbasin.  I would be fine with either option.

 

Breckenridge - Love the place, but I have to admit I work there so I have some bias.  Breckenridge just opened an entire new mountain, Peak 6, on Christmas Day 2013.  So Breckenridge now covers 5 mountains!  Acreage wise it may not seem that big when looking at stats, but it skis much bigger than it's listed acreage.  The terrain has a lot of variety for all skiing abilities.  The snow at Breckenridge has been some of the most consistent in North America.  This ski season Breck has been one of the only resorts in western North America with snowfall totals at or above average.  Several years ago Breck had one of it's worst snow years on record, yet the resort still had well over 90% of their terrain open on closing day in mid-April and it was skiing very well.  The lift ticket is interchangeable at Vail, Beaver Creek, Keystone and A-Basin.  There is a free Summit Stage bus service between Breck/Keystone/A-Basin if people want to go other places on their own during the week.  The group could easily go to Vail or Beaver Creek for a day with charter buses.  Breck is easy to get to with tons of air available into Denver at reasonable prices.  Lots of lodging options for both condos and hotels.  A great historic town with lots of restaurants and bars.  Drawback- it is high in elevation causing problems for some, though with a little fore thought and talking with your doctor many of those issues can be avoided.

 

Jackson Hole is one of my favorites (along with Alta/Snowbird).  Some of my most memorable ski days have been here.  A great "skiers mountain" for the advanced skiers.  Limited terrain for the intermediate skiers, though they have improved this in recent years.  Jackson Hole gets consistent snow and quite a bit of it most every year.  Grand Targhee is nearby so a day trip there is easily doable.  The airport is right there, no long bus rides from/to the airport.  However, for a group the size of Chicago Week (sometimes 400-500 people) air can be an issue.  There are limited flights into Jackson so many people would be on connecting flights and it may take two days (maybe three) to get everyone in and the same to get everyone out.  Because the group would be taking up so much air the prices would be higher, there are only so many "cheap" seats on each flight.  Then where does the group stay - at the mountain or in town?  At the mountain there are lots of condos, but only high end hotels.  There is a limited number of bars & restaurants at the mountain.  Not sure if the shuttle buses between the resort and town run at night.  Staying in Jackson (town) has lots of reasonably priced hotel options not much for condos.  The town of Jackson has lots of restaurants & bars.  If staying in town we have to shuttle to/from the resort everyday.  I have done both, stayed at Jackson Hole and stay in town, I personally prefer staying in town (the shuttles to/from the mountain are very good).  In recent years Jackson Hole has not "pushed" for the group market.  They have plenty of business from FIT's (Frequent Individual Travelers) who are willing to pay higher $ to be there than most ski club groups.  So Jackson Hole is probably not going to be aggressive in trying to get a large group in, meaning it will probably be fairly expensive with few perks thrown in by the resort.  

 

So there's my .02¢

post #4 of 25

I want to expand the idea of a Snowbird/Alta trip for Chicago Week 2017 to include Brighton and Solitude.  The group would stay in Salt Lake City.  Lodging there is much, much cheaper than at Snowbird.  I have stayed at the Shilo Inn downtown but would strongly suggest the near by Hilton for lodging.  (Breakfast was included  with our lodging at the Shilo, but it wasn't the best.) The advantages of this trip are many.  All four areas are in canyons that get lots of powdery snow, and by including all four areas, the trip would appeal to all skiers--not just the very best and the very young. These areas generally get more snow than Park City or Deer Valley. They are 28-30 miles from downtown Salt Lake City and the bus rides are 30-45 min. long at the most.  People bond and get to know each other on the bus rides so the rides can be fun.  You might want to stagger bus departure times from the hotel to accommodate both early and late risers.  There are many good restaurants within walking distance from the hotels as well as restaurants in the hotels themselves for those who don't want the bother of going out in the evenings.  The train station is also within walking distance should people want to go to Ogden for the day.  I don't know how far Snowbasin is from Ogden, but I would check into taking the train to Ogden and arranging a bus to Snowbasin for those who might want to add that area to their repertoire of ski experiences. Also in Ogden there is a great gun museum founded by Remington.  Back in Salt Lake City, people can visit the Tabernacle also within walking distance.  The city is not a high volume traffic city and is easy to navigate.  The bus system is good and the people there are willing to take time to help visitors find their way--even if they just want to go shopping.  I know people like condo lodging.  But hotel lodging can be very much more like vacation when you don't have to cook every night.  The refrigerators in the hotel rooms allow you to grocery shop for essentials you might want to keep in your room.  The city itself is only about 7 miles from the airport-----no long ride from the airport to the city.   

post #5 of 25
Thread Starter 

CMSC received an email suggesting Mammoth in California.  Awesome suggestion :ski  CMSC Chicago Week was held at Mammoth back in the mid 90's.  It was a great trip.  I remember how awesome the shuttle buses were for the group.  They had shuttle buses scheduled all evening just for our group to get around village/town and they ran until everyone was back at their lodging accommodations for the night.  I believe our twice former CMSC President Keith F. was one of the CMSC trip leaders for that trip.  We did a day trip to June Mountain on that trip.  Anyone else interested in Chicago Week going back to Mammoth in 2017?

post #6 of 25

Not sure where to stay in Jackson. Never been there.

post #7 of 25

Park City. Why?

 

$$ FIFTY MILLION $$ in improvements. These are all scheduled to be completed in time for the Winter 15-16 season to Park City Mountain Resort and the Canyons (both are now owned by Vail Resorts).  The improvements are to include: Interconnect Gondola (will connect Park City Resort with the Canyons), upgrades to existing lifts and new restaurants on the mountain. 

 

Details are here:

http://www.parkcitymountain.com/site/blog/authors/park-city-mountain-resort/announcing-the-largest-resort

 

FYI - the improvements have already been approved by PC City Council and work is ready to start immediately following the close of 14-15 season.

post #8 of 25
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CydInChicago View Post
 

Park City. Why?

 

$$ FIFTY MILLION $$ in improvements. These are all scheduled to be completed in time for the Winter 15-16 season to Park City Mountain Resort and the Canyons (both are now owned by Vail Resorts).  The improvements are to include: Interconnect Gondola (will connect Park City Resort with the Canyons), upgrades to existing lifts and new restaurants on the mountain. 

 

Details are here:

http://www.parkcitymountain.com/site/blog/authors/park-city-mountain-resort/announcing-the-largest-resort

 

FYI - the improvements have already been approved by PC City Council and work is ready to start immediately following the close of 14-15 season.


That is a very good point.  The skiing experience should be much improved once the improvements are completed.  Another point to consider with Park City is the Epic Pass is good there which many people are now buying and could be a selling point for the trip.

post #9 of 25
Thread Starter 

Interesting, as of March 8 @ 6:30pm this poll/thread has been viewed 140 times, yet only 6 people have voted in the poll up to that point in time and even fewer have posted comments.  Does this mean people really are not interested in the destination of Chicago Week 2017?  Or they just have no interest in expressing their views? 

 

For those people who have taken the time to create an account at EpicSki.com, join the CMSC group, vote in the poll and even better post a comment expressing your views - THANK YOU!

 

Please, if you have taken the time to visit this site and view the comments being made here, create an account for yourself and share your thoughts, views and suggestions with us.

post #10 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by skiwithCMSC View Post
 

Interesting, as of March 8 @ 6:30pm this poll/thread has been viewed 140 times, yet only 6 people have voted in the poll up to that point in time and even fewer have posted comments.  Does this mean people really are not interested in the destination of Chicago Week 2017?  Or they just have no interest in expressing their views? 

 

For those people who have taken the time to create an account at EpicSki.com, join the CMSC group, vote in the poll and even better post a comment expressing your views - THANK YOU!

 

Please, if you have taken the time to visit this site and view the comments being made here, create an account for yourself and share your thoughts, views and suggestions with us.


Maybe need to give direction to actually join the group after registering with epicski? It seems like you cannot vote for some reason....... then I figured out that I needed to join the CMSC group, after registering. :-) Jim

post #11 of 25
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TbirdSkier View Post
 


Maybe need to give direction to actually join the group after registering with epicski? It seems like you cannot vote for some reason....... then I figured out that I needed to join the CMSC group, after registering. :-) Jim

 

I did mention the need to join the group in the second posting...

 

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Originally Posted by skiwithCMSC View Post
 

A Chicago Metropolitan Ski Council (CMSC) Board member recently sent out an email to past participants on CMSC Chicago Week trips.  This email asked which destinations the clubs/people would like Chicago Week 2017 to go.  CMSC has received a flood of email responses, what a shock - NOT! 

 

 

So please create an account for yourself here at epicski.com, join the Chicago Metropolitan Ski Council group and tell us your thoughts about what the destination for Chicago Week 2017 should be and why.

 

 

I guess I should have spelled that out a little better.  

 

So to join the "Chicago Metropolitan Ski Council - CMSC" group you must click on the "Join Group" icon when displaying the group page.  The "Join Group" icon will be located below and to the right of the group name "Chicago Metropolitan Ski Council - CMSC" banner.  Simple to do, but this MUST BE DONE to vote in the Chicago Week 2017 destination poll and to post comments in threads within the CMSC group page.  In order to join the CMSC group one must first create their own account on EpicSki.com.

post #12 of 25

Minor comment - I just voted for our three destinations via this website, however, the system did not allow for the order of preference nor did it allow for me to indicate the "Other" location.  (But I'm retired and not as computer-savvy as I'd like to be, so maybe I just couldn't figure it out:).)  The destinations for the Joliet Ski Club are as follows:

 

1 - Telluride

2 - Mammoth ("Other" Location which is not listed as a destination)

3 - Vail

 

We have all levels of skiers in our club and we believe that the above three destinations would accommodate us quite nicely.  Based on our level of participation in the last two Chicago Week trips (to Mt. Bachelor and Big Sky), we expect that the Joliet Ski Club would have at least 12 persons go to any of the above locations. 

post #13 of 25

Snowbird/Alta- never been there, would love to go there, stay in Salt Lake City.

Jackson Hole- stay in town. Years ago, I went to Jackson as a beginner skier and had a blast. 

Vail - so much terrain! 

post #14 of 25

Salt Lake City, Utah is such an awesome place to go. Last time we stayed in town and took buses every morning to Alta, Brighton, Solitude and Snowbird. This was a wonderful remembered trip with great skiing. Been a while, I would love to return.

 

Jackson Hole is such a great place to visit as well.  Preference would be to stay in Condo's at J.H.Mt.  We had 10 in our huge Condo and had so much fun. Returning there would be great as well.

 

BUT, wherever CMSC decides to go we always have a remarkable trip. Kudo's for all the people who work so hard and give so much to make these trips OUTSTANDING!

 

Happy to just be skiing,

Janice - Duneland Ski Club

post #15 of 25
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barb L Joliet View Post
 

Minor comment - I just voted for our three destinations via this website, however, the system did not allow for the order of preference nor did it allow for me to indicate the "Other" location.  (But I'm retired and not as computer-savvy as I'd like to be, so maybe I just couldn't figure it out:).)  The destinations for the Joliet Ski Club are as follows:

 

1 - Telluride

2 - Mammoth ("Other" Location which is not listed as a destination)

3 - Vail

 

We have all levels of skiers in our club and we believe that the above three destinations would accommodate us quite nicely.  Based on our level of participation in the last two Chicago Week trips (to Mt. Bachelor and Big Sky), we expect that the Joliet Ski Club would have at least 12 persons go to any of the above locations. 


Barb - You are correct this poll does not allow the person voting to pick an order of preference.  You are also correct when you vote "Other" it does not allow an entry for what that other may be.  However, you did exactly what we wanted, you voted then posted a comment listing you order of preference and telling what your "Other" desired destination is.

 

Thank you for taking the time to register on EpicSki.com, join the CMSC group and post your comments!  I'm hoping we can get more clubs to use this website to increase communications and to help promote and improve the CMSC member clubs.

post #16 of 25


Thanks for your quick reply to my minor comment.  And thanks to the CMSC Board members who make all these great trips happen.  Your efforts are greatly appreciated! 

 

From:  Barb Lewandowski, Week Trip Director, Joliet Ski Club

post #17 of 25

I've never stayed in the condos at Jackson Hole.  I've always been in town.  I can only guess it is great staying there.  Could possibly offer town and the mountain lodging as I'm sure there will be a difference in price. 

post #18 of 25
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by susanf View Post
 

I've never stayed in the condos at Jackson Hole.  I've always been in town.  I can only guess it is great staying there.  Could possibly offer town and the mountain lodging as I'm sure there will be a difference in price. 


You are correct there would be a price difference.  Staying in condos at the mountain would most likely be more expensive than staying in the town of Jackson in mid-range hotel lodging.  We could have part of the group at the mountain and part in town.  However, that has the potential to become a logistics nightmare for the CMSC trip leaders when it comes to planning activities and getting people to/from said activities.  I don't think the public shuttles between town and the resort run after ski area closes in the afternoon.

post #19 of 25


Very good point!  Thanks for responding.

post #20 of 25

I am a member of dsc club a part of cmsc and my vote is a personal preference not the same as the dsc club. please count my vote as personal preference.

 

Jack Anderson

post #21 of 25

Inland's preferences are : 1 - Park City:  We've never stayed in Salt Lake City, but it sounds like a viable option based on the comments here.  2 - Jackson: Staying at the mountain. 3 -  Beaver Creek.

post #22 of 25

If Alta/Snowbird were chosen,I wouldn't mind staying in Salt Lake City and also skiing the Park City areas.

post #23 of 25
Thread Starter 

Based on emails received from CMSC member clubs and past participants on Chicago Week trips the short list for CMSC's Chicago Week 2017 trip includes Vail, Park City, Breckenridge and Jackson Hole.  It was also noted in the RFP (Request For Proposals) that Snowbird/Alta, Telluride and Steamboat also showed quite a bit of interest.  The bidding tour operators are also allowed to bid "wild card" areas, meaning they can bid areas not on the CMSC short list.  The intention of allowing wild cards is if the tour operators know of some special deals at a specific destination that would offer a great value to the CMSC they can submit a bid for it.

 

Of the four destinations on the CMSC short list, what are your thoughts on those areas?

 

 

Vail is likely to be very pricey, would your group go to Vail for Chicago Week if the price came in at $1800 or more per person.  Vail is many people favorite place to ski with the vastness of skiing and the famous back bowls.

 

If the pricing for Jackson Hole is good I could see that being a larger trip.  However, if the group is larger people would probably have to come in and leave over a couple days because of the limited air into Jackson.  Jackson Hole offers some of the best skiing in North America with lots of terrain to explore with improve intermediate terrain and some awesome expert terrain.

 

Park City would be great because Vail (the new owners) will have completed the connection of Park City and The Canyons making them one huge ski area and all of the lift upgrades and updates to the on mountain restaurants will be completed.  Park City is easy to get to and has a great historic town.

 

Breckenridge is always a great place.  For many people it would be their first chance to experience the Peak 6 expansion that opened up an entire new mountain at Breckenridge.  Breckenridge now covers 5 mountains!  Breck is also easy to get to and has a great town.

post #24 of 25

I would want to go with the wild card and pick Salt Lake City. I ski with the Duneland ski club, and we don't have the numbers to do a Salt Lake City trip at this time because it requires paying for the shuttle buses each day.  We would have only14-16 people on the bus and couldn't afford all the empty seats.  We loved that trip several years ago when we had more people, and we skied Snowbird, Alta, Brighton, and Solitude.  Found that staying in the city was less expensive than staying at Snowbird, even with daily shuttles for just our club.  There was plenty to do in the city, and we could ski more areas.Yes, Park City or Deer Valley could be included, but would be a longer ride on the shuttle.  I would also investigate the possibility of skiing Snow Basin.  Haven't checked myself, so I don't know.  We went to Ogden on our day off when we were there before--took the train there and back.  It might be possible to have a bus waiting at the train station in Ogden to take those who want to ski Snow Basin to that area. I can't say how much time you could spend or skiing you could do at Snow Basin--might depend on the train schedule. I guess my point is, there are lots of possibilities for skiing when staying in Salt Lake City, and that kind of trip doesn't work for a small club.  Would love to do it with the CMSC.  Did I say that the areas in the canyons collect more snow?  Snowbird, Alta, Brighton, and Solitude are all in canyons, and all had great snow when we were there.  Powder lovers loved it. My second choice would be Breckenridge, and third choice Vail, however I prefer Beaver Creek package prices to Vail's.

post #25 of 25
Thread Starter 

CMSC has selected a destination that was bid as a "wild card" fro Chicago Week 2017.  The destination chosen is Beaver Creek, Colorado.  The trip dates are February 25 - March 4, 2017.  CMSC received two wild card bids for Beaver Creek.  Keep your eye out for more information in the future on Chicago Week 2017. 

 

Thank you all who have taken the time to post your input here on this forum.  Hopefully, we can use this forum to open up better communications between clubs and between clubs and the CMSC.

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