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post #1 of 17
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Hey y'all, I hear some of you think the fossilized bird is the word and I'm inclined to agree based off of my experience with the Atom LT

 

I'm looking at shells now and have a bit of a dilemma. I love the fit of my atom LT which is a large, however everyone is recommending a medium for shells for someone around my height and weight. 5'9 175, kinda stocky. Can anyone comment on how they fit? Should I go with med as conventional wisdom or should I size up to a large based on my experience with my current piece of arc gear. I'm currently looking at the Rush.

post #2 of 17
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Originally Posted by Nikoras View Post
 

Hey y'all, I hear some of you think the fossilized bird is the word and I'm inclined to agree based off of my experience with the Atom LT

 

I'm looking at shells now and have a bit of a dilemma. I love the fit of my atom LT which is a large, however everyone is recommending a medium for shells for someone around my height and weight. 5'9 175, kinda stocky. Can anyone comment on how they fit? Should I go with med as conventional wisdom or should I size up to a large based on my experience with my current piece of arc gear. I'm currently looking at the Rush.


Hi, depending on the model fit varies. Some are really slim fit others are really roomy given an equal size. Arcteryx has several names for each type of fit. Between garments of equal size and fit name fit is pretty similar.

post #3 of 17
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Originally Posted by Nikoras View Post
 

Hey y'all, I hear some of you think the fossilized bird is the word and I'm inclined to agree based off of my experience with the Atom LT

 

I'm looking at shells now and have a bit of a dilemma. I love the fit of my atom LT which is a large, however everyone is recommending a medium for shells for someone around my height and weight. 5'9 175, kinda stocky. Can anyone comment on how they fit? Should I go with med as conventional wisdom or should I size up to a large based on my experience with my current piece of arc gear. I'm currently looking at the Rush.

If you are a large in the Atom LT get a large Rush! Like said fit changes for different models but I don't agree when people say I'm a medium here, a large there. To me at least it's more like a it either fits me or not, sizing up or down will usually get you things like awfully long sleeves or tight shoulders, some models will fit you others won't!

 

The Rush is kinda on the small size for the ski expedition fit, not likely a climbing shell but definitely not much room for layering compared to say Sabre or SVX.

 

I tried all these jackets last year Rush, Sabre, SVX, Caden, they all fit different but I'm the same size on all of them, it's just a matter of how you like the jacket to fit you!

 

Rush more equal fit, similar to the Caden but not as long, thin hip vs thigh length, the rest is similar. 

 

Sabre is the more relaxed fit, similar length to Caden, maybe in between caden and rush.

 

SVX the longer of all the above, more space for layering compared to Rush and Caden. Not as relaxed as the Sabre but longer and higher collar and bigger hood.

 

My preference is 1) SVX, 2) Rush 3) Caden 4) Sabre

post #4 of 17

Depends how you like the fit.  I'm 6'2", 185lbs and have the Rush in Large.  Leaves room for my Atom LT underneath no problem, with a bit of room to spare.  Has a slightly relaxed fit for me.  I tried the Rush medium and it fit, just more "snug". Could still layer under it, but not as relaxed style/fit.

 

If you want something more freeride and relaxed, go with the Large.  If you want a trimmer fit, go Medium.

post #5 of 17
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Originally Posted by Gunnerbob View Post

Depends how you like the fit.  I'm 6'2", 185lbs and have the Rush in Large.  Leaves room for my Atom LT underneath no problem, with a bit of room to spare.  Has a slightly relaxed fit for me.  I tried the Rush medium and it fit, just more "snug". Could still layer under it, but not as relaxed style/fit.

If you want something more freeride and relaxed, go with the Large.  If you want a trimmer fit, go Medium.

We are the same size and wear the same size in both those pieces - actually the Rush collar has gotten a little looser this year - doesn't rub my chin as much as last years (have 2).. It's big enough on me to throw a Cerium SV under it if I had too. It isn't a Euro Rando Racer fit for sure and the Sabre was huge in comparison.

Op - At 5'9" and 175 that Rush will be "roomy" for sure. It's a great shell, just wish it came in more solid colorways. BTW - that is a large Rush in my avatar. It doesn't fit me too tight at 6'2"' - 185.
post #6 of 17
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Well it's pretty much just as you guys said after trying on both med and large. Med = trim fit and form fitting, I still had a little room for some layering though. Large = free ride looking with a little more relaxed fit around the chest/belly, although the sleeves felt a tad long (although I guess that's what those cinches are for). I went with the large because I like to put stuff in pockets and the med wouldn't allow me to do that as much given the fit. I tried it out Sat where we had freezing rain. The thing shedded all the liquid off like a champ and blocked 100% of the wind. I was never cold but I wasn't particularly warm either and on a 30 degree day that has me a bit worried about what it's going to be like when it's 20 below. The setup I used was a merino wool base layer, an Atom LT mid layer and the new rush jacket. Should I think about picking up something like a down vest as an additional mid layer in the future to go over my Atom and keep me a bit warmer?

post #7 of 17

Depends how your body temperature runs.  I run hot in the torso, and I only use a down midlayer (Cerium LT) when it's -20C or colder.  Otherwise I use an Atom LT.  The Cerium LT is pretty awesome, I gotta admit.  If you can afford it, you won't be disappointed.

post #8 of 17

I'm surprised to hear you weren't exactly warm at 30° with that setup. I wear the same setup, something moisture wicking for a baselayer, an Atom midlayer and a Rush. It's served me well down to single digits.

I'm about the same size as the OP. I bought the medium because I felt the arms were too long on the Large. Wish I bought the large and just cinched the wrists. The med. is a little snug when you start putting stuff in the pockets. Great jacket though.

post #9 of 17

I think you mean me being hot?

 

30F?  I'd be boiling at those temps in that setup, yes.  That's practically T-shirt weather for me when I'm out West!

 

Perhaps there's a misunderstanding between Fahrenheit and Celcius.  I only bring out the Cerium LT (down) when it's below -20C (-5F) and storming.  Even at those temps, I'll usually sport the Atom LT unless it's really windy.  I did wear the Atom LT and Rush combo one day at Lake Louise when it was -40C (-40F)......admittedly, on the chair I did wish for either down or an extra fleece.  It was pretty chilly that day.

post #10 of 17
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Originally Posted by Nikoras View Post
 

I was never cold but I wasn't particularly warm either and on a 30 degree day that has me a bit worried about what it's going to be like when it's 20 below. The setup I used was a merino wool base layer, an Atom LT mid layer and the new rush jacket. Should I think about picking up something like a down vest as an additional mid layer in the future to go over my Atom and keep me a bit warmer?

 

Did you have trousers that were just as warm or was your upper body the warmest part of the setup?

post #11 of 17
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Pants were insulated north face that I just wear gym shorts under because I find it warm enough. Most of the coolness seemed localized to my shoulder/collarbone area. I have a down vest that I'll throw over the Atom LT next season and see if that helps.

 

Also I've been looking into shell pants. Most companies seem to have the philosophy "Hope you're a 32 inch inseam or you're fucked". Patagonia doesn't make long/short versions of the powder bowl Flylow doesn't make long/short versions of the chemical pants...same thing with marker and marmot. It's actually kind of crazy that they will make different sizes accommodating waist sizes but not height.

post #12 of 17
Hah, Thank God I have a 32" inseam. Yes, you'd think more inseam choices would be prevalent
post #13 of 17

If this is what I think it is, then it's a rain thing - as in the freezing rain sucks heat away from your body where snow won't.      It'll be 60F out and I'll get the same sensation wearing my old nylon bike jacket in the rain.    It gets so much "coolness" that I almost think the rain is penetrating the jacket but when I take it off it's dry under there.

I reckon you don't really have anything to worry about.   That jacket will be plenty warm when it snows.   Snow simply can't suck heat away that fast - there isn't enough mass of it falling directly on you and when it does it insulates instead of flowing away.

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. Most of the coolness seemed localized to my shoulder/collarbone area.

post #14 of 17
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Originally Posted by Nikoras View Post
 

Pants were insulated north face that I just wear gym shorts under because I find it warm enough. Most of the coolness seemed localized to my shoulder/collarbone area. I have a down vest that I'll throw over the Atom LT next season and see if that helps.

 

Also I've been looking into shell pants. Most companies seem to have the philosophy "Hope you're a 32 inch inseam or you're fucked". Patagonia doesn't make long/short versions of the powder bowl Flylow doesn't make long/short versions of the chemical pants...same thing with marker and marmot. It's actually kind of crazy that they will make different sizes accommodating waist sizes but not height.

 

I use a wicking base layer, then something like a Arc Delta under the Atom, then a shell. Never had an issue with cold, even in some pretty gnarly temps and conditions. A down vest over an Atom seems like an awful lot of heat retention.

 

Also, I have a Sabre in Large (that I'll selling btw), that has the thin fuzzy insulation that might be all you need for warmth versus a basic shell like a Beta or Theta

post #15 of 17
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Interested in Sabre pants but I don't think a large would fit me :(

post #16 of 17
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Originally Posted by Nikoras View Post
 

Interested in Sabre pants but I don't think a large would fit me :(

what's your inseam? The sabre would be good for a longer inseam 32+ I guess, it's really baggy in the lower part of the leg (I think they redesign for next season), so short people tend to look like  they have a second pair of pants around the lower leg

post #17 of 17
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30". My current TNF insulated pants are 32" and always get stuck in by bindings when I'm popping in. That's just way too long I think. A medium-short would probably fit me but no one has them in stock.

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