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Powder Mountain Friday March 6

post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 
In Utah for a week right now, hit it just right with powder since we got here last Saturday. Taking today off and trying to decide where to go tomorrow. Should be spring conditions everywhere here.

Have never skied Powder Mountain but would like to, just hearing mixed recommendations from talking to locals in a few shops here.

We have skied Solitude, Brighton twice, and Alta so far.

Powder reporting 63 inch base, with about 17 inches from this last storm.

Will powder be worth the drive up there?
post #2 of 22

If you go to Powder Mountain you will still find untracked snow.  Yes it will be worth the drive.  It is not the steepest hill and it is not as posh as Snowbasin, but IMO it is pretty darn good.

post #3 of 22

With the great areas in Utah, PowMow isn't one of them in my opinion.

 

You went to Sillytude, Brighton and Alta, but not Snowbird. OK, the answer is very easy then.............

post #4 of 22
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Originally Posted by snofun3 View Post
 

With the great areas in Utah, PowMow isn't one of them in my opinion.

 

For some reason, Pow Mow is easy to diss here.  It's not expert enough, it's not steep enough, it's not varied or challenging.... whatever.  All I know is that I skipped the place for years b/c of opinions like this expressed here.  This year, I went...and now I'll go back again and again.  

 

It's true there's precious little pucker-steep terrain.  And the trees are spaced widely enough to actually get through.  But how many skiers really NEED or truly WANT those things?  Or will more fully enjoy their experience if it is 80% hairball terrain?

 

I sometimes find the celebration of "expert" mountains here to be off-putting. "There's no place like Jackson Hole..or Snowbird...or Squaw."  But how many of us really want to ski Corbet's every day, every run?  

 

PowMow is a wonderful throwback to when skiing was simply fun and you could go anywhere.  It has a wonderful vibe and an openness that invites you to try unknown lines w/o having to worry if you'll face mandatory air or 50* chutes.  If you don't like it, fine; there will be more untracked for me.  But maybe we don't always have to dismiss it.  

 

...Grouchy today

post #5 of 22

Pow Mow to snowbird is like Magic Mountain to Killington here in the east  

 

It is a place to get away from the testosterone fueled, hard charging, gotta be first to get the goods attitude that often seems to rule certain hills.  Which I am fine with some of the time...and some of the time I prefer a more relaxed experience.  Powder Mountain is that more relaxed experience and I think that is one reason SLC locals may dismiss it.

 

Snowbird has the terrain, that is for sure, but the snow can get chewed up pretty quickly and a couple of days after a storm...if Powder got 17"... I know that is where I would be heading.

post #6 of 22
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the info guys. We are going to try Powder...sounds like a place my wife and I will both enjoy. Should be better than a day at the office wink.gif
post #7 of 22
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Originally Posted by tch View Post
 

For some reason, Pow Mow is easy to diss here.  It's not expert enough, it's not steep enough, it's not varied or challenging.... whatever.  All I know is that I skipped the place for years b/c of opinions like this expressed here.  This year, I went...and now I'll go back again and again.  

 

It's true there's precious little pucker-steep terrain.  And the trees are spaced widely enough to actually get through.  But how many skiers really NEED or truly WANT those things?  Or will more fully enjoy their experience if it is 80% hairball terrain?

 

I sometimes find the celebration of "expert" mountains here to be off-putting. "There's no place like Jackson Hole..or Snowbird...or Squaw."  But how many of us really want to ski Corbet's every day, every run?  

 

PowMow is a wonderful throwback to when skiing was simply fun and you could go anywhere.  It has a wonderful vibe and an openness that invites you to try unknown lines w/o having to worry if you'll face mandatory air or 50* chutes.  If you don't like it, fine; there will be more untracked for me.  But maybe we don't always have to dismiss it.  

 

...Grouchy today

 

LOTS of assumptions here, many incorrect.

 

Not all about the GREAT terrain that he apparently hasn't seen at Snowbird (pucker-steep, hairball,. mandatory air, 50* chutes etc etc - YOUR words), but the very fine terrain all over the mountain. For "throwback" do you mean all those wonderful slow fixed grip lifts, or the bus that you wait for, or the overpriced cat ride, or the "lodge".

 

I don't ski Corbet's every run, but love to dive into Mineral Basin with freshies

 

Hey look, on the least coast Magic and MSGRG are my favorites, and off I-70 I'll take A-basin anyday, but when there's Snowbasin, Snowbird and so many others in the immediate, vicinity, PowMow is absolute dead last i appeal.

post #8 of 22

Yes Powder Mountains sucks. Especially when it has...well, powder.  

post #9 of 22

Powder Mt. is the intelligent choice the day after other places have been tracked out because it will still have powder.  That day is today Thursday IMHO.

 

The powder at Powder Mt. is degraded not by skier traffic but by wind or sun.  It has a lot of varied exposures and the altitude range of 6,900 - 8,900 is not high by Utah standards.  The Utah weather guys are calling for a big warmup over the next few days, sustained until at least Wednesday.  So that new snow at Powder Mt. isn't going to be powder very long.  We're driving to Utah tomorrow and I don't think there will be any powder by Saturday. 

 

Friday is a close call.  You may still get powder on north aspects.  You will not have good spring skiing.  Sunny exposures will have unconsolidated glop, with a morning crust if today is warm enough. 

 

For an out-of-state visitor the low key, non-competitive environment at Powder Mt. could be big plus.  If you haven't skied Snowbird and like high-end challenging terrain, it's a must-do.  If that's not a priority Powder Mt. is a reasonable choice for Friday. 

post #10 of 22
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 Friday is a close call.  You may still get powder on north aspects.  You will not have good spring skiing.  Sunny exposures will have unconsolidated glop, with a morning crust if today is warm enough.

This^

 

But I think you are gonna find that at most Utah resorts with the warm temps predicted.  I skied the last 2 days at Pow Mow & got fresh tracks but I was skiing on the backside of Lightning Ridge which was not open on Big Tuesday.  Today I did a few more laps back there & with some hiking & creeping over rocks & bushes was still able to find some nice shots.  You definitely had to stay on the shady aspects & even then it was slim pickings.

 

Today, about as far out as you can go.  the tracks to lookers right are from yesterday:

 

Late in the afternoon I did a lap out to the Cobabe Canyon area & was able to find some deep & only partially tracked snow through the trees but the shots where short & a lot of traveling to get there.  Oh yeah, & Powder Country is still not open :( .

 

I love Powder Mountain but tomorrow if you have the choice, I think I would hit one of the CC resorts (Snowbird) & stay on the north aspects.  One of the issues nowadays is that even in a vast & uncrowded place like Powder Mountain, things get chewed up & left for the vultures & doesn't get fully skied out for weeks.  Without fresh snow, the best thing that could happen now would be some high winds to smooth all this nice snow out but that ain't gonna happen.

 

Your best bet IMO, would be to hit some nice steep, soft bumps on runs like Silver Fox under the Tram at Snowbird.

post #11 of 22

100% agreed.  It actually reminded me of some of my favorite small east coast mountains where the lifts are slow, the lodges are full of moms with crock pots, and most people are skiing in jeans... and everyone is smiling.  The last time I was at Powder was over Christmas break many years go when it had snowed over 3 ft the preceding days.  LCC resorts were a zoo full of overamped bro brahs, so we took the leisurely option and went to Powder.  Every run was blissfully untracked until closing time.. no attitudes or competition, just a relaxing place, mellow fun powder, and friendly people.

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PowMow is a wonderful throwback to when skiing was simply fun and you could go anywhere.  It has a wonderful vibe and an openness that invites you to try unknown lines w/o having to worry if you'll face mandatory air or 50* chutes.  If you don't like it, fine; there will be more untracked for me.  But maybe we don't always have to dismiss it.

 

post #12 of 22

I think that pic above is the from the primo area traversing out a ways from the snowcat drop. 

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Today I did a few more laps back there & with some hiking & creeping over rocks & bushes was still able to find some nice shots.  You definitely had to stay on the shady aspects & even then it was slim pickings.

Yes, I did not mention that with the dry January and February it's probably low tide outside the Cottonwoods.  Powder Country bus runs face partial south and may not be adequately covered.

 

I also endorse Snowbird for the largest amount of accessible north facing terrain during these warm spells.  Which seem to occur with some regularity during my upcoming timeshare week there.:mad At least I'm in the right place when the weather is like that.

post #13 of 22
Thread Starter 
Well we already bought tickets to powder so it we will go and have fun no matter what.

As for not going to Snowbird, well I'm just not sure how much my wife would like it. I know what she can have fun skiing vs what she will freeze up and white knuckle her way down. I do a pretty good job of maximizing the fun for us both.

Our favorite western mountain is Steamboat, where she's pretty happy anywhere except the chutes / Christmas tree bowl. That's probably a good indication of what we like in terrain to make us both happy skiing together.

Anyway...it's been an awesome week here...we got lucky with conditions. So no matter what happens tomorrow the trip has been great. Plus we saw a moose today while hiking Robs trail near PC...and for my wife that makes the trip complete smile.gif
post #14 of 22
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Originally Posted by billyymc View Post

Well we already bought tickets to powder so it we will go and have fun no matter what.

As for not going to Snowbird, well I'm just not sure how much my wife would like it. I know what she can have fun skiing vs what she will freeze up and white knuckle her way down. I do a pretty good job of maximizing the fun for us both

If that's the case, Pow Mow will be great. Stay on the Hidden Lake lift & Sunrise Poma & you will find mostly winter snow & a great day.
Tacos & burritos in the hidden lake lodge are pretty good.
post #15 of 22
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I know what she can have fun skiing vs what she will freeze up and white knuckle her way down.

Did you two ski anything far out the High Traverse at Alta?   That would be an indication of how she might do on much of the ungroomed terrain at Snowbird.  But your instincts are probably right, as Snowbird is an intimidating mountain to some people.

post #16 of 22

I visited Pow Mow once last year because they were reporting more snow than the resorts in the cottonwoods one day during a week-long trip. It was remarkably uncrowded for an 8" powder day, although the snow was wet/heavy that day. We did a couple snowcat rides, which was sort of a waste. We had to wait a long time in line and there was some sun crust on the pow that wasn't shielded by trees. The skiing off the lifts was better and wasn't much more tracked.

 

The mountain isn't very steep, but I think it's fun. The passes are cheap and there are some unique aspects (shuttle bus out of powder country, crossing roads in the middle of runs, upside down (main lodge at the top of the mt)). If you like to experience different mountains and avoid crowds, you'll like pow mow. If you need the steeps, fast lifts, or gourmet food it's not for you.

 

Snowbird is a fine intermediate mountain. Not great, but ok. If you aren't going to do the more extreme terrain than you can do better elsewhere. 

post #17 of 22

Wondering how Powder Mountain was.  I'm arriving with a group Sunday, and I'm trying to convince them to switch to a higher resort.

post #18 of 22

PowMow is not as high as the Cottonwood Resorts. I think it's about the same as Snowbasin and Park City. The bottom may be higher, but I don't think as much vert.

post #19 of 22

I want a mini TR to see how his day was. I love PM!

post #20 of 22

I was up there again for a few runs this afternoon.  Snow was great soft winter snow on Hidden Lake & Sunrise.  Powder is pretty chewed up. 

Some interesting snow art seen from the top on Flat Top...

post #21 of 22

See, I'd go up to PowMow to see Simon Beck's work and get some relaxing skiing in, but that's just me.

post #22 of 22
Thread Starter 
Getting packed up to head back east. Powder Mtn was a great way to end our week. Lots of cut up powder but still soft in most areas. The sun kept everything softened up until late in the day. There were still fresh lines to be had in Cobabe Canyon, either with a little hiking or not...just had to keep traversing if you didn't go for the hike. Takes a long tome to lap though!

By end of day the whole area under the express quad was skied off pretty hard. The area under the slow quad to return from Cobabe looked fun but was also skied pretty hard and had some pretty thin spots...careful in there or you'll get some practice repairing core shots.

Powder country was not open. Lots of fresh in there still...maybe they are saving for the weekend.

We were told by some locals that it was more crowded than normal yesterday, but the only waits were for the HS quad and the Pima.

Glad we went...heading home, hoping you get more snow soon.
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