Originally Posted by Max Capacity
I'm interested to hear your thought's on the MX78 after the grind. I think you'll like them more. They are a good ski.
Resurrecting this thread from the end of last season because: 1. I am bored with the lack of snow in the NE 2. I had the MX78 skis ground and used them this season and 3. Still tweaking my quiver to get it "just right" (the impossible dream, I am a Red Sox fan).
The MX78, 184cm worked out very well for me. I like the ski a lot, for me its a top of the line front side carver. It doesn't have any float at my 245lb bulk and sinks like a rock in mashed potatoes or deep soft snow. It handles shallow soft snow pretty well due to its stiffness. In mashed potatoes, I mostly wanted to get off them, but I forced myself to stay on them recently on a warm day and I started to figure out how to weight it to make it work better in those conditions. Agree with all that has been said about this ski and would add, its a ski I want to have a long term relationship with. The more I ski it, the more I figure out its nuances and the better it performs for me. It works very well for me on hardpack, in moguls, in trees with hardpack, and in nice packed conditions. Its a soft tipped race ski for me which works for roughed up terrain. I don't like it in mashed potatoes and deep untracked snow due to its narrowness.
Now for my quiver thoughts. Quick recap, I have race skis for hard snow but they are too stiff to take off piste and in big moguls. I have a powder ski and a 101mm wide Ski Logik Chariot (full camber) for soft snow days. The MX78 filled the void for moguls and trees on firm days. They don't work for spring mashed potatoes, but the Chariot's are great in those conditions. Where the Chariots are not great is in the tight trees in soft snow. They carve well, but don't pivot well. If I hop turn them a lot the really wide tips and tails get cumbersome. A narrower or rocked ski would work a lot better.
I wonder if there is a 85-95mm ski that can replace both the Chariots and the MX78s. It needs to pivot well for tight trees, carve well on groomers, be soft enough for a 245lb guy in moguls, and handle spring mashed potato snow. For the spring conditions I need width, at my size, probably 95-100mm (not sure if a 88mm is wide enough? my 101mm Chariots work well). To pivot well it needs some rocker or at least a light tip. It needs to be somewhat stiff, but with a med tip.for moguls. It needs to be long enough and stiff enough in the middle to edge well on groomers and hold on ice. It doesn't need to be an ice pick and it doesn't need to be much of a powder ski, I have that covered with other skis.
The MX78 falls short due to width, and the MX88 or 98 might not pivot well due to increased width, but I don't know? I can see why someone from Okemo suggested a 95-100 wide rockered ski for a daily driver (or all around the mountain ski in non bullet proof conditions). If that ski would perform well on groomers, then I might have what I am looking for.
The new candidates soon to be under contract: (I am buying them) Salomon Xdrive 8.8 FS in 184 and Liberty Origin 96 in 187. Will the Salomon's float me in mashed potatoes? (same tip and tail width as the Liberty skis) Will it pivot well in tight trees? Will the Liberty handle high speeds with its large tip rocker? How will it ski in moguls with its stiff mid section? I have demo'd the Liberty in 182 cm and really liked it, but wanted it longer for high speed stability.
Stayed tuned for the next episode of "Scott can't make up his mind what ski he wants" I am trying out for the next season of the bachelor show as well (don't tell my wife)