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Can my boots be shrinking form a heated boot bag?

post #1 of 7
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I have severe bunions and I have been skiing pain free since Bob at the Boot Dr Telluride punched them out last year after canting, new foot beds and alignment. I could even walk in my boots without pain which was a first for me.Solomon XMax 130. 

 

A few weeks ago my left bunion started slightly hurting and skiing both this last Saturday and Sunday both bunions are hurting slightly. 

 

What has changed since last year:

 

I keep my boots in a heated ski bag for around 10 hours prior to skiing and I measured the temp and it is around 90F

I am a good skier but after a lesson I am flexing the boot this year very far forward compared to last year.

Prior to my lesson I was turning in a GS turn around every 6 seconds, now with my carving and my 14 radius ski I am making twice to three times as many turns during a run.

 

Could the heated boot bag be shrinking the bunion punch outs?

Any ideas why I am in pain again.

 

And just a note I never notice pain when skiing, It is on the chair lift or just starting or walking when I start to feel it. Problem with a bunion is it takes very little to irritate it. 

 

Level very aggressive 7 or 8 on the groomers. 67 years old, 190 lbs, Volkl Tigershark, 174, Blizzard R Power 174 Volkl Kendo 177

post #2 of 7

Well many things could cause it but at that temp it isn't your hot gear bag.  Your feet continue to change from year to year.  The fact that it bothers you primarily walking or with I assume feet hanging on the lift indicates to me your feet are moving slightly inside the boot and the bunion is not aligning properly with the punch.  I'd have the punch modified slightly.

 

Lou

post #3 of 7
Thread Starter 
Ok but they never hurt all of last year.
post #4 of 7

And relative to your feet constantly changing like the rest of your body, your point is.

post #5 of 7
Thread Starter 
I have had severe bunions since I was 11. I have a tool to press out my shoes. I havent had any problems with shoes or hiking boots one pair being very stiff. Something is happening other then my bunions changing. I tend to think like others here have posted a ski boot might have to be pressed again every year or two.
post #6 of 7

once the plastic on a salomon x-max 130 is heated to the proper temperature and set either with a mechanical punch or using your foot inside the boot as the tool, it will stay there because this particular plastic does not have memory the way many polyurethane or blended plastic shells do. 

 

there is a possibility that the combination of how big the punch is, as well as how much padding was in the liner at the 1st met head when it was new versus after one season. solution is an easy fix.....first have your fitter recheck the geography and the size of the bunion punch, if mismatched correct with a larger/relocated shell mod. secondly have your fitter add some soft foam as an insert to your liner at the 1st met head to cradle the bunion at the properly sized and located shell punch.

 

one other general issue that can cause change in fit comfort is the degradation of the liners ability to hold the foot down and back to the back of the boot. this loosening of the liners control over the foot happens slowly over the course of the season. but increased movement of the foot and or the need to increase the buckles holding power, can cause subtle movement that will effect the bony prominences of the foot like a bunion or a ankle bone, etc. because it happens slowly over time, you may not notice it right away.

 

concerning the increased flex and the hot bag, imo the heat produced from the bag set on the medium setting should not influence stretches, or flex. however that being said the plastics used in the heat moldable boots from salomon have been known to soften and break down quicker than those made of polyurethane or polyether. now that being said, if you have limited range of motion in your ankle joint and you are in a boot that is on the softer side in flex, it can cause pressure and pain in random areas of the boot like a big toe bunion. one other factor is that the salomon x max 130 is in fact called a 130, but anyone that has tested that boot will tell you that it flexes much softer than it's name. and that is before they are heat molded.

 

go back to the boot doctor, if you can, or find a good fitter closer to where you live.

 

jim

post #7 of 7
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Originally Posted by starthaus View Post
 

once the plastic on a Salomon x-max 130 is heated to the proper temperature and set either with a mechanical punch or using your foot inside the boot as the tool, it will stay there because this particular plastic does not have memory the way many polyurethane or blended plastic shells do. 

 

there is a possibility that the combination of how big the punch is, as well as how much padding was in the liner at the 1st met head when it was new versus after one season. solution is an easy fix.....first have your fitter recheck the geography and the size of the bunion punch, if mismatched correct with a larger/relocated shell mod. secondly have your fitter add some soft foam as an insert to your liner at the 1st met head to cradle the bunion at the properly sized and located shell punch.

 

one other general issue that can cause change in fit comfort is the degradation of the liners ability to hold the foot down and back to the back of the boot. this loosening of the liners control over the foot happens slowly over the course of the season. but increased movement of the foot and or the need to increase the buckles holding power, can cause subtle movement that will effect the bony prominences of the foot like a bunion or a ankle bone, etc. because it happens slowly over time, you may not notice it right away.

 

concerning the increased flex and the hot bag, imo the heat produced from the bag set on the medium setting should not influence stretches, or flex. however that being said the plastics used in the heat moldable boots from salomon have been known to soften and break down quicker than those made of polyurethane or polyether. now that being said, if you have limited range of motion in your ankle joint and you are in a boot that is on the softer side in flex, it can cause pressure and pain in random areas of the boot like a big toe bunion. one other factor is that the salomon x max 130 is in fact called a 130, but anyone that has tested that boot will tell you that it flexes much softer than it's name. and that is before they are heat molded.

 

go back to the boot doctor, if you can, or find a good fitter closer to where you live.

 

jim

Thanks Jim, I think you are on the right track. This is my 3rd year in the boot and this year I can feel the liners packing down and I am tightening my buckles. I have a new pair of Technica liners and I will try them just to see if that might help. If not I may need new Liners. 

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