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Any tyrolia Ambition skiers out there?

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These showed up the other day for @ExoticSkis testing & look sweet. Any beta?
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I'm considering these and would love to hear some impressions!

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We got em last year early & they were shipped w a paper template. I liked em enough to get another second pair this season & a jig.

Mounted up right (jig) they are sweet- lighter than a Duke/Baron, yet still a frame binding. If you're looking for a more versatile light binding than a Dynafit & want to still ski em hard- this is the real deal.

My set last year was poorly aligned & still skied well (it was horribly off). This year they are solid clamp in & go.

1 item I give more consideration now is resale/ loaning out gear. This will take a AT/WTR/Alpine boot & adjusts easy. Plus more bomber than it looks.
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We had a customer order a carbon version.  I thought we'd have to nail it to the floor to keep it down.  It is just crazy light and crazy $$$$$.

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We had a customer order a carbon version.  I thought we'd have to nail it to the floor to keep it down.  It is just crazy light and crazy $$$$$.

Truth!! I thought about the carbon for- not at all with a retail of $1,150!!!
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Irip- any prerelease issues at speed? If they keep you in, I'd consider these.
Are they a solid connection to the ski or wobbly?
Thanks
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Irip- any prerelease issues at speed? If they keep you in, I'd consider these.
Are they a solid connection to the ski or wobbly?
Thanks

I've not had any & 1/2 the time I'm in my whooped Nordica TR12 old school mountaineering boots. They've been thrashed by crampons, alpine bindings & eaten up by Dukes. These are not as secure as a Duke, but for lapping- they are superb.
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I would guess a skier's weight would factor into how secure they are.  I weigh 150 pounds and can't imagine I would ever need anything more secure.  Might be a different story if I weighed 200.

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Skied em today & their were a lot of angry/gelous skiers on other bindings. They have multiple heel modes & adjust in a snap, while you're on the move, with just a ski pole tip. Crushed the steeps.
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Any more feedback after using these for a while?  The weights of these look extremely enticing. but as a bigger guy at 203lbs and running a DIN of 10.5, I am concerned about durability of these , especially for 70% inbounds use.  It looks to solve alot of my issues with the Duke and Baron as far as lifer weight, better toe pivot point, except for the stack height which looks similar.  

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Originally Posted by NYSki View Post
 

Any more feedback after using these for a while?  The weights of these look extremely enticing. but as a bigger guy at 203lbs and running a DIN of 10.5, I am concerned about durability of these , especially for 70% inbounds use.  It looks to solve alot of my issues with the Duke and Baron as far as lifer weight, better toe pivot point, except for the stack height which looks similar.  


I've used a pair for the last two seasons.  Mounted on some Rossi Soul 7's, these are my "inbounds/out-of-bounds skis" if that makes any sense.  These are the ones I use if I'm going somewhere sidecountry in Jackson Hole where I might end up skinning.  

 

Though I anticipated the setup would be more for side country use, I've used them as my sole inbounds powder skis this year.  The reason for that is that we've never really had a serious period of prolonged multi-day snowstorms, so I just haven't even taken my "real" powder skis out of storage this season.

 

I've used the Soul7/Tyrolia setup inbounds about 25 times since last year.  Have not had an unwanted release in those days of skiing.  I did have one ski come off in a fall that probably called for a release, so I'm very happy with the performance.  

 

I wouldn't necessarily take these over my Dynafit setup for "dedicated" backcountry excursions, but for inbounds soft snow and side country skiing these have been excellent.   

 

ps... I weigh 195# and ski a lot and relatively hard.

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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post
 


I've used a pair for the last two seasons.  Mounted on some Rossi Soul 7's, these are my "inbounds/out-of-bounds skis" if that makes any sense.  These are the ones I use if I'm going somewhere sidecountry in Jackson Hole where I might end up skinning.  

 

Makes absolutely perfect sense.  That's almost exactly what my intended use is also, my travel soft snow / possible short lift assisted tour ski.  I've used Barons in this role in the past and despite the mildly annoying stack height they work pretty well for this, but tour pretty lousy and weigh a bunch.  The lighter weight and better placed pivot of these looks great, but i am mildly concerned about durability with bashing them around on bumps and such in mixed conditions inbounds.  Also running the Barons at 10.5 i want to make sure I wouldn't need to pump up the DIN on these to avoid prerelease since they max out at 12.  Having said that, I typically don't break bindings, more worried about torsional rigidity and eventual slop developing. 

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I don't think I've skied mine enough to determine if slop would develop.  I ski a 9-10 DIN and haven't done anything different with these versus alpine bindings.  

 

You mention being somewhat annoyed about the ramp height of Barons.  I don't pay very much attention to that but my sense is that the Tyrolias *feel* like they're a bit higher than the Barons I used to use for the same purposes.

 

Keep in mind that I only ski this setup in soft-snow conditions.  That absorbs a lot of the stress on the binding, I think.  I don't know that the Tyrolia would be the best choice if you're going to use the setup day after day in hard-snow bumps.

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Irip- any prerelease issues at speed? If they keep you in, I'd consider these.
Are they a solid connection to the ski or wobbly?
Thanks

Funny you should ask...I've had a few prereleases, in deep powder when snow consistancy changed abruptly or a sudden change in direction. I was going to have them looked at and perhaps adjusted, but I took a look at them this morning and saw that the forward Din was set at....4! They were supposed to be set at 7 when they were mounted at the shop. (Heel was at 7) I'm lucky I didn't get killed last season on the runouts.... in any case, I reset them to seven, and I can have my (other) shop check them, but I thought I'd run it by you all first. Setting Din is  routine for me with alpine bindings, but this is my first AT set up.  Have a look. I'm pretty sure everything is correct now. By the way, they have been great. Mounted on 188 Soul 7.

 

 


Edited by Mr. Crab - 12/6/16 at 6:19pm
post #15 of 17
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I've been pounding em & no issues. It's a solid clamp.
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Any updates on these in terms of durability and ski feel now that some more peopel here have a full season+ on them? Particularly in comparison to other frame bindings. Do you give up a lot of rigidity and snow feel as opposed to a Duke / tracker/ adrenaline? The specs on these look great but the fact they look so much like a Fritschi or Naxo makes me probably irrationally leery
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Originally Posted by NYSki View Post

Any updates on these in terms of durability and ski feel now that some more peopel here have a full season+ on them? Particularly in comparison to other frame bindings. Do you give up a lot of rigidity and snow feel as opposed to a Duke / tracker/ adrenaline? The specs on these look great but the fact they look so much like a Fritschi or Naxo makes me probably irrationally leery


They are with quite odd- look like you would snap em; ski like Dukes, ok 85% Duke. I've got a couple pairs & no issues. They do look Naxo, yet very durable.
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