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post #31 of 55
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P89 seems to be a great choice based on what I have read and heard with one exception. @philpug mentioned that Brahma and P89 are two very similar skis. If that's right in terms of the weight and sluggish turn initiation, I may need to rethink my path here and just settle on the E88...

Would the p89 be a sure for ski that one can buy without a demo (don't see these in my home mts)?

The P89 is really a fun ski and not 'sluggish' at all. A shorter length brahma can be fun, but has a top end. The longer are fine so long as you're moving... I don't know why, but the brahma just isn't my favorite 85-90mm ski, but other everyone else's mileage varies significantly from mine on this one.
post #32 of 55
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Originally Posted by ARL67 View Post

---> FX94 or FX84 in 176 are very versatile  ---> there are several threads on the FX

- Andy
Thanks I agree the fx94 is a great ski. I recently sold my 1st gen fx94 due to short length.
post #33 of 55
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Originally Posted by markojp View Post

The P89 is really a fun ski and not 'sluggish' at all. A shorter length brahma can be fun, but has a top end. The longer are fine so long as you're moving... I don't know why, but the brahma just isn't my favorite 85-90mm ski, but other everyone else's mileage varies significantly from mine on this one.
what are your dimensions? I thought the brahma was a good fit for heavy skiers.
post #34 of 55
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what are your dimensions? I thought the brahma was a good fit for heavy skiers.

6' #205. I don't really know why, but neither the Bonafide nor the Brahma do it for me... Sort of a length issue? Dunno. Just dunno. Nice enough skis, but just no "cool!" factor. I really enjoyed the new Enforcer for what it's worth. I do have a high'ish CoM... Big shoulders and a pumpkin head, and I've stayed at a holiday inn before.
post #35 of 55
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post #36 of 55

my buddies got a pair of those Head motorhead skis. He really likes the skis themselves but tthe top sheets are falling off like crazy.......hes got a 3 inch section that came off across from one edge to the other!   (we've been ripping pretty hard this winter)

 

Q98's - a good one quiver ski , great edge on them, wish the rocker was a bit more substantial but perform well in most conditions out here in Utah

post #37 of 55

Even at my weight, 150 pounds, motorheads are like overcooked noodles.

post #38 of 55
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Thanks everyone. I just bought a pair of E88 172s for my upcoming one ski-quiver trip and more. I have done my homework...demoed a bunch of skis, read a number of reviews and done strings of Q&As on this forum. I'm content with my choice and won't be having second thoughts. I've never owned Rossis before so I'm stoked about that too. 

 

Below was my decision criteria:

1. 85-90mm width, which seems to be my sweet spot for a do-everything ski

2. Little-to-moderate rocker for versatility off-piste

3. Light overall and low swing weight

4. Predictable carving feel with positive early turn initiation and solid finish

5. Medium + flex for stability and edgehold

6. No Stocklis or Kastles

post #39 of 55

BOOOOOO!!!! HISSSSSSSS!

 

 

 

 

just kidding. enjoy your new skis. Like I said in other posts, crap doesn't really exist. Now stop talking about it and get after it :Ott

post #40 of 55
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I like yakking about skis just as much.  :)

 

Why are you against Rossis?

post #41 of 55
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Even at my weight, 150 pounds, motorheads are like overcooked noodles.

Which Motorheads?  I grabbed a pair of the Kiss of Death this year and the twin tips have some give but the rest of the ski is stiff.  "Like an I Beam" said my ski buddy. 

 

I weigh in at 240 and bend most things super easily.

post #42 of 55

I'll check tomorrow.

post #43 of 55
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I like yakking about skis just as much.  smile.gif

Why are you against Rossis?

I really like the E-100 and the Hero Master is an absolutely superb ski. I could certainly make the E-88 do what I need for work, but I prefer both the Head Rev 85 pro and new Monster 88, and the Powertrack 89. But like the gimp says, there's very little truly bad product out there. A good tune and the correct length are the key.
post #44 of 55
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I agree. I might add that flex is important too.

post #45 of 55

Hammered

post #46 of 55
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Originally Posted by nochaser View Post
 

I like yakking about skis just as much.  :)

 

Why are you against Rossis?

Well, I really can't stand the 7 series. It's a ski that rewards crummy ski habits and allows crummy skiers to ski terrain and conditions that they otherwise couldn't……the damn thing was at the forefront of the demise of the powder stash!!!!! I finally got on a pair of Soul 7s last year and thought, "Huh….this is the ski that saved Rossi….." I think it's a garbage ski. The Experience series, however, is pretty darn good. Whatever. Got hate something I guess. 

post #47 of 55
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Well, I really can't stand the 7 series. It's a ski that rewards crummy ski habits and allows crummy skiers to ski terrain and conditions that they otherwise couldn't……the damn thing was at the forefront of the demise of the powder stash!!!!!

So you just hate the ski for selfish reasons, or would you really talk intermediate skiers out of buying the ski? For the 1 or 2 week a year skier out West, I'm not sure why opening up more of the mountain to them is a problem.

post #48 of 55
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Many people on the hill use wide skis like the 7 series as daily drivers "on piste" and vast majority of them just smear/slave their way down. I just don't get what the appeal is with wide skis for groomer applications.

Having said that, that's just my personal view that dictates my own ski buying behavior. People should buy whatever they like and enjoy, and that's all that matters at the end.
post #49 of 55

Most people ski for enjoyment. Many people will never carve a turn and couldn't care less. Skiing more of the mountain with ease (technique be damned) is a good thing for most recreational skiers. Obviously not good for those trying to keep the powder fresh as long as possible. BTW, I'm married to one of these people, so any ski that makes her happy allows me to continue making annual trips out West.Thumbs Up

post #50 of 55
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Yeah, my better half included. Some people are athletically inclined and keen. Others are talented in other ways.

post #51 of 55
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Originally Posted by RatherPlayThanWork View Post
 

So you just hate the ski for selfish reasons, or would you really talk intermediate skiers out of buying the ski? For the 1 or 2 week a year skier out West, I'm not sure why opening up more of the mountain to them is a problem.

I would never, ever talk a intermediate skier out of buying a S7! This ski was made for them....which is why I hate it. Of course I hate the ski for selfish reasons. I'm expressing an opinion. An opinion is a sentiment mined from the deep core of one's inner sanctum of BS.

 

Why is opening more of the mountain to the "1 or 2 week a year skier" a problem. I believe I speak for the entire jaded local tribe when I say: "Because they don't deserve it."    :devil:

post #52 of 55
LX 92 @ 174 listed for sale on this site are a good fit and great price. Better than anything you'll rent and very versatile.
post #53 of 55
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I don't like capped skis. That's according to my sentiment mined from the deep core of my inner sanctum of BS smile.gif
post #54 of 55
Really love the blizzard 770 ti for an all around ski. Only problem is that it's only 77 under the waist. It's amazing on groomers and is wide enough tip and tail that it should float. It's a 13.5m radius at 160 so I would go more toward 174 length. Wicked fun though for fast transitions. It's almost a slalom ski and stiff enough. Just a side note they make a ti iq and a ti in a stiffer version. I am talking about the stiffer version which has wicked fun rebound.
post #55 of 55
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My Rossi E88s are holding up really well in CO for spring skiing.

These new E88s are definitely firmer than the demos I tried at Mammoth...expected. This ski loves to turn and I like it. It's no FIS SLs but more than adequate for free skiing. There is no drama or surprise on its predictable turn initiation and finish. The tail is cooperative and never lets its presence known even when I was in the back seat a little bit--just an all around solid turning machine.

I had no problem making short turns on the ungroomed snow--the 88mm waste width doing its magic. I could park and ride long GS turns and no drama there either. I'm warming up to wide skis. Perhaps late to the party but better late than never.

The skis with SPX12 bindings weigh just over 12lbs. The lightness allows for quick and nimble turns and also course correction and forgiveness.

I didn't bring anything else with me to my CO road trip, expecting no more snow and refrozened snow turning soft slush through out the day. I'm truly going one ski quiver....I'm glad I didn't bring the BMX 178s. I'll have to christen in next year....I know I'll miss my 23m GSs in early weekday mornings but I stopped switching out skis in the middle of a day. It's a hassle.

All in all, I'm pleased how everything turned out. I did my homework and found what I needed. I got a great deal from Starthaus too.

Thanks bears for your input.
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