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great first day in Lange RX130s

post #1 of 11
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just had my first day in my new Lange RX130s on packed powder in the Catskills.  Went down one size per the bootfitter.  They're "snug" but I had been wearing them in the house for 1/2 hr at a time to get them used to me, and the tight spots (esp. behind the ankle bone knob) weren't unbearable.

 

One thing I noticed was that after reading the "how to put on ski boots" article here, I followed the buckle order, and used the micro-adjusters to make them just tight enough - just enough tension when closed to not flop open.  I got on the mountain and basically used the settings I had dialed in on my couch.  After lunch tightened #3 a little cause with the power band closed it was sloppy.  They will be fine...

 

These replaced my Rossi Course-E's sadly retired because of a broken unreplaceable heel pad.  One thing I immediately noticed is that where I always had some slop on turn exit on the Rossi's (outside knee wanted to rotate outwards and raised arch, depressurize the edge prematurely - my nonexpert anatomical analysis...) it ain't there with these - force goes where I put it, and right now they're not cranked down.  Awesome feeling.  I don't know if it's the one size down or just 20 years' newer tech, or that Langes now are a better boot than Rossis were then.  I learned to really ski in my Rossis (and my amortization averaged out to $10/yr) so these have a high standard to live up to but it looks like they will.

post #2 of 11

Though I have had issues (as do others) with leakage, my RX 130's are about my favorite boot ever.  Just tight enough yet roomy enough to be all day buckle in the morning and don't touch till 4 o'clock comfortable.

 

Earlier this season I tried removing the top bold to soften it just a bit and I think I like them even more!

 

If you don't have custom insoles, I highly recommend getting them as well.

 

Ski on!

 

Rick G

post #3 of 11

The top bolt gone works out to about 122 flex, according to another post on another thread, guy contacted Lange. I'm doing same, it does in fact feel about like 120 and change. Super responsive boot, isn't it?  

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Originally Posted by epicskijs View Post
 

...just enough tension when closed to not flop open... 

 

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but are you saying that you have all four buckles so that there's very little tension on them? I don't recall seeing that advice for all the buckles - perhaps the bottom two over the foot. 

 

But I think most people tighten the upper buckles more than that. And the article also says "... Most high end boots have a pretty stout power strap. This needs to be as tight as you can get it." which would seem to indicate a very snug fit of the upper buckles too.

 

(Slightly off topic, just skied my RX 100's for the first time this past weekend, and really liked them. Not sure if there are any differences other than flex, but they seem great.)

post #5 of 11
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Originally Posted by dbostedo View Post
 

 

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but are you saying that you have all four buckles so that there's very little tension on them? I don't recall seeing that advice for all the buckles - perhaps the bottom two over the foot.

 

But I think most people tighten the upper buckles more than that. And the article also says "... Most high end boots have a pretty stout power strap. This needs to be as tight as you can get it." which would seem to indicate a very snug fit of the upper buckles too.

 

(Slightly off topic, just skied my RX 100's for the first time this past weekend, and really liked them. Not sure if there are any differences other than flex, but they seem great.)

 

Not counting race boots and elite racers, none of your buckles should be so tight that it is difficult to open or close.  As mentioned in that article that you want them tight enough to not pop open when flexing.  Yes, the Power Strap needs to be tight, that is to keep the tongue of your boot firmly against your shin so that when you flex there is no space and you have an immediate response.  If there is a small space between your shin and tongue, then there will be a slight delay in response.  If your boots fit right, you should not have to fiddle with buckles all day.  Buckle and forget.

 

As for the RX100, they are a fine boot in there own right, however there are several differences between that model and the RX130 besides the flex.  You get a much higher quality liner and a more powerful power strap.  The sole of the boot in the 130 has the extra grippy insert which makes walking around the lodge with wet floors much safer and I believe that shell material is slightly different.  The general overall fit when comparing the 100mm RX130 and the RX100 (which also has a 100 mm last) is very similar.  Best heal hold of any boot I have ever owned!

 

Ski on!

 

Rick G

post #6 of 11

This is my second season in the LV version of this boot and I could not be happier.

They have the responsiveness of previous boots, Nordica Doberman Pro 130's, without the pain and icebox quality. Much of that has to do with the liner, me thinks. I have a pair of Zipfit that could easily fit into the Lange's. But there is no need to given the quality and fit of the stock liner. Very impressive.

I did replace the stock strap with my old Booster strap. I slip the elastic strap under the top buckle and cinch. This closes the boot cuff around my ankle for added responsiveness without adding to the stiffness of the boot cuff. You may wish to consider that, especially if you have shins of the chicken variety, as I do.

Credit should be given for the rubber tread on the sole. It provides much better footing than a boot without it. Did I mention that the fit, for me, is superb, right out of the box. I did what I completely discourage others from doing - buying boots online. But I know my boot sole length and downsized 1.5 size for about a 10mm shell fit.

Good choice on a great boot that is designed for a narrow heel and medium forefoot. And the green matches my cell phone cover. Perfection.

D1

post #7 of 11
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Originally Posted by deliberate1 View Post

This is my second season in the LV version of this boot and I could not be happier.



They have the responsiveness of previous boots, Nordica Doberman Pro 130's, without the pain and icebox quality. Much of that has to do with the liner, me thinks. I have a pair of Zipfit that could easily fit into the Lange's. But there is no need to given the quality and fit of the stock liner. Very impressive.



I did replace the stock strap with my old Booster strap. I slip the elastic strap under the top buckle and cinch. This closes the boot cuff around my ankle for added responsiveness without adding to the stiffness of the boot cuff. You may wish to consider that, especially if you have shins of the chicken variety, as I do.



Credit should be given for the rubber tread on the sole. It provides much better footing than a boot without it. Did I mention that the fit, for me, is superb, right out of the box. I did what I completely discourage others from doing - buying boots online. But I know my boot sole length and downsized 1.5 size for about a 10mm shell fit.



Good choice on a great boot that is designed for a narrow heel and medium forefoot. And the green matches my cell phone cover. Perfection.



D1


 



^ Interesting You went 1.5 sizes down from your Dobermann? I had the RX130 LV and moved to a Dobermann shell to get the fit around my heel. The RX, IMHO has a pretty roomy ankle heel. But thats why they make different boots and smart to work with a bootfitter.
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Originally Posted by deliberate1 View Post
 

This is my second season in the LV version of this boot and I could not be happier.

 

They have the responsiveness of previous boots, Nordica Doberman Pro 130's, without the pain and icebox quality. Much of that has to do with the liner, me thinks. I have a pair of Zipfit that could easily fit into the Lange's. But there is no need to given the quality and fit of the stock liner. Very impressive.

 

I did replace the stock strap with my old Booster strap. I slip the elastic strap under the top buckle and cinch. This closes the boot cuff around my ankle for added responsiveness without adding to the stiffness of the boot cuff. You may wish to consider that, especially if you have shins of the chicken variety, as I do.

 

Credit should be given for the rubber tread on the sole. It provides much better footing than a boot without it. Did I mention that the fit, for me, is superb, right out of the box. I did what I completely discourage others from doing - buying boots online. But I know my boot sole length and downsized 1.5 size for about a 10mm shell fit.

 

Good choice on a great boot that is designed for a narrow heel and medium forefoot. And the green matches my cell phone cover. Perfection.

 

D1

 



^ Interesting You went 1.5 sizes down from your Dobermann? I had the RX130 LV and moved to a Dobermann shell to get the fit around my heel. The RX, IMHO has a pretty roomy ankle heel. But thats why they make different boots and smart to work with a bootfitter.

Sorry for the misdirection. I downsized 1.5 sizes from street shoes, not from the Dobermans to the Langes. Both were 265 mondo/305bsl.

For me, the heels in both boots feel the same - very solid. I should have mentioned that I replaced the Nordica liners with a pair of Zipfit WC liners, so that is what I am comparing. Obviously they fit differently than the stock.

I find the Lange has a more accommodating toe box which provides the kind of all day comfort that I ultimately could not quite get with the Nordicas. I do not feel that I have sacrificed any performance for the added comfort of the Langes.

post #9 of 11

I made the same move as Deliberate 1, Dobie Pro 130 to the Lange RX 130. I was in the 305mm BSL Dobie Pro, now in the 306mm Lange. I opted to have a new footbed made, and I also went with a BD foam liner, and a Booster strap. I could not be happier with the boots. I ski the lower two buckles with just enough tension to hold them closed. The foam liner turned out really well, and I need minimal tension on the upper two buckles. I ski with the Booster tight enough to get an immediate response, as others have suggested. I love the sole on the boots….for walking. Just a huge convenience thing. I just came back last night from a trip to CO, and my wife was quite jealous as she messed around with her cat tracks. 

 

I was pretty sure that I'd like everything about them, and was a bit skeptical of not having a solid sole, and of the rubber boot board. Not need to have felt that way. I was also skeptical of the alleged 130 flex. For me, it's perfect. I can ski real "firm" surfaces in complete comfort, and over the past five days I was skiing on everything snow and terrain wise…..on 3-4 different skis for a 84mm Firearrow EDT  to a 113mm Helldorado. Most of my time was on a Bonafide. The boots were perfect. 

 

I basically booted up and buckled them up at 8:30, and took them off at 4:00……and didn't touch them. They fit me, they perform, and I'm almost embarrassed at how comfortable and warm my set up is. And I agree, the stock liner's great. Would have been very happy with it, no doubt. Over the top happy with the BD liners. though.  

 

Great boot. My daughter's in a RS 130 with the same liner, and she may move to the RX, because of the sole and the footboard. And they look cool…….


Edited by Muleski - 3/4/15 at 7:30am
post #10 of 11
I do find when buckling that once I go outside and the boot shrinks in the cold, I have to re buckle and then I'm set. I'm in Dalbello kryptons
post #11 of 11
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I do find when buckling that once I go outside and the boot shrinks in the cold, I have to re buckle and then I'm set. I'm in Dalbello kryptons

 

Same here... I usually tighten once during the morning after a few runs. Since mine are new, I'm assuming the liner is packing down a bit too.

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