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Drone view of a ski racer - better insight

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I dont have a drone but managed to get this video clip from a chair lift last week. I think its pretty cool, gives a totally different perspective. Feel free to comment both techique and camera angle.

 

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It is indeed very cool. I loved the New York Times Drone shot following Ted Ligety as he skied. It looked awesome.

 

post #3 of 13
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That drone shot is truly awsome. Must be a pretty expensive drone to fly that fast.

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The perspective on Ligety's video really helps understand line. I'd love to see this perspective filmed more often for training.
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This video is a good example that even for racers, carving more of the turn "starting higher/finishing lower" is faster. This benefit also translates to more dynamic free skiing for any and all turns that can be carved. The quicker your transition, the more of the turn that is carved as well as making it easier to stay low throughout.

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Originally Posted by Rich666 View Post
 

This video is a good example that even for racers, carving more of the turn "starting higher/finishing Later" is faster. This benefit also translates to more dynamic free skiing for any and all turns that can be carved. The quicker your transition, the more of the turn that is carved as well as making it easier to stay low throughout.

FIFY:p 


Edited by Atomicman - 3/9/15 at 10:22am
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A carved turn usually has a bigger radius than a skidded or partly skidded one. So a carved turn therefore starts higher and ends lower.

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A carved turn usually has a bigger radius than a skidded or partly skidded one. So a carved turn therefore starts higher and ends lower.

I think you have that backwards! 

 

A carved turn has a tighter (smaller) radius than a skidded turn..........so the radius is smaller not larger!

post #9 of 13
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I can easily skid a turn at below the indicated turn radius. Lets say my R>44 SG skis at a turn radius of only 1m. So it is IMO possible. And isnt that also the reason they increased the turn radius on the GS skis in the WC? So that every turn could not be carved! This why Ted explains in his video that he starts the turn earlier and finnishes it later.
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And isnt that also the reason they increased the turn radius on the GS skis in the WC? So that every turn could not be carved! This why Ted explains in his video that he starts the turn earlier and finnishes it later.

 

There were probably all sorts of reasons for it. The biggest I remember hearing was safety.

 

His turning style is a little different than everyone else's'. It looks like a blend of waist steering mixed with traditional style. That is just how he deals with the equipment changes and it seems to suit the new skis. Whatever it may be, he carves hard, long, and has huge edge angle.

post #11 of 13
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Yes, safety. But they made it safer by increasing the turn radius so that not all turns could be carved. At least that was the attempt. Question remains, was that a successfull rule change? Many say it was not. Having to push everything to the limits in order to get the ski to tip as far as possible. And then slamming your skis sideways at 80km/h on courses with deep ruts.... anyway, raceday :).

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Originally Posted by tdk6 View Post

I can easily skid a turn at below the indicated turn radius. Lets say my R>44 SG skis at a turn radius of only 1m. So it is IMO possible. And isnt that also the reason they increased the turn radius on the GS skis in the WC? So that every turn could not be carved! This why Ted explains in his video that he starts the turn earlier and finnishes it later.

True of a pivot entry, but the last 1/2 of the turn is carved. 

 

Not true of a fully skidded turn.


Edited by Atomicman - 3/13/15 at 6:20pm
post #13 of 13

Here is a clip with some drone footage of Hirscher on slalom. Too bad the footage isn't as continuous of each shot like the Ted Ligety video. This is more of a PR type video from Red Bull.

 

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