I don't think you understand what is meant by edge lock Rich. Most of the people on this forum feel that carving = edge locked. I don't see edge locked carves as being detrimental, as you are now describing. There are plenty of opportunities to achieve it, and its not an indication of bad stuff like you have described. It simply means the ski has no skidding component, its arcing purely.
Most of the people talking about carving on this thread so far are referring to this form of carving. Edge locked. Arcing.
Razie has described his experience of non-edge locked carving...which many on this thread are going to vomit and cough and lose breath before they cry blasemphy that it be called "carving". I don't agree with those people, but whatever, its a tired old debate that has gone on here on this forum for years and never resolved and never will. Some people see it one way, some people don't.
The question, for this thread is about control of the skis in the top half of the turn. What I can say, again, simply, is that if you pivot into the fall line, then there is no control in the top half of the turn, because it is skipped. If you carve through the top half, then you have some control, mostly directional, but not exclusively. If you carve with brushing or smearing or non-edge locked edges, then you have further degrees of control in the top half of the turn, speed control more so then directional, but not exclusively.
I don't really understand the great controversy here, this is pretty simple stuff unless you want to get all hung up on language being used.
Edited by borntoski683 - 3/17/15 at 1:45pm