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post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 

Can anyone recommend a BC guide at CB. I am an Advanced Intermediate and would like to learn more about BC skiing. I am NOT an expert skier but am interested in hitting a new side of the mountains. I would like to hire someone for 2 days of 1-1 skiing in mid March who has patients and can go slow with out aggravation. Although I ski around 30 days a year coming from Texas I dont have the lungs/legs to run up the mountains coming from sea level.

 

I'm 48, reasonably good shape (At Sea Level). I have RMU CRM with dukes mounted, and a set of Moment Bellafontes. We generally ski Wolf Creek, Taos, Durango, and this will be my 1st trip to CB. If this even matters. 

 

Please I know the feelings about Texas skiers, so you dont have to repeat them to me. I am simply looking for a competent guide that wants to have some fun teaching me.

 

Thanks a bunch

 

Bo

post #2 of 21
There's really no BC accessible from the resort. I'm sure just a regular instructor could push your envelope in the north face.
There is a cat op in Irwin that might be a nice start.
post #3 of 21
Thread Starter 

Thanks a bunch for the reply.I looked into Irwin cat skiing, a little high class for me at $650 a day. From what Ive read there is a good chance you can't get a seat either. I will take your advice and check out hiring a guide for the North Face. That could be just the ticket for a beginner, just wanting to get my feet wet. 

Thanks again

Bo

post #4 of 21

You don't have to do the cat at Irwin; they absorbed Crested Butte Mountain Guides last year, so it's all under the same umbrella now. It's $345 for a 1:1 day. There is a ton of terrain surrounding the area, should be a good time.

 

I have done the North Face guide at CB, too, and it was a great experience. Just check and see how much of the terrain is open. Backcountry would probably be a little more fun for an advanced intermediate; CB seems to be lacking in that level. 

post #5 of 21

Shrehead got it right.  The CBMR ski school has instructors that can get you out into terrain that ought to provide good BC type skiing even though it's lift served.  The newly opened Teo II terrain even requires a half hour or so hike/climb out.  The Irwin operation run by Eleven has cat skiing and a guide operation.  Check'em out

post #6 of 21
Thread Starter 

Thank you that sounds great. Ill check it out for sure.

post #7 of 21
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the info. I am definitely going to hire a guide/Instructor for a day or 2 for the mountain. I will definately try the cat service for $345.00 that sounds like a blast. 

I really appreciate all the info its a big help in planning. 

 

Thanks to all.

 

BO

post #8 of 21

The $345 is for a 1:1 guide/instructor in lift served terrain, some of which has a bit of walking involved but nothing compared to earning your turns in the backcountry. I think the CB extremes with a guide will be a wonderful experience for someone aspiring to get to that next level.

post #9 of 21
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Originally Posted by Smushie View Post
 

The $345 is for a 1:1 guide/instructor in lift served terrain, some of which has a bit of walking involved but nothing compared to earning your turns in the backcountry. I think the CB extremes with a guide will be a wonderful experience for someone aspiring to get to that next level.

 

Um, the $345 is what I picked off the Irwin/CBMG site for full backcountry, no lifts or cats. The North Face lift-served at the resort is $130 or something; when I did it, I was the only one in the class, but a full-day private would have been more like $600 I think. 

 

Personally, I would pick the Irwin guide. I loved my experience on the resort, but I was lucky in that (a) I was the only client, and (b) almost the whole mountain was open when I did it, everything but Third Bowl and Banana.  I still didn't feel like it was anything like a backcountry experience, though. Yeah we hiked out of Teocalli, but.... no.  Most of the terrain we skied was really not appropriate for a self-described "advanced intermediate," whereas a nice low-angle BC tour would be perfect. 

post #10 of 21
Thread Starter 

Great I understand. I will definitely take your advice for the Irwin guide. I will check out the website and try to find where you found this and send a deposit to make sure i get a trip. It they will take it that way. Certainly sounds like a blast and a 1st trip learning experience. 

Thank you

 

Bo

post #11 of 21
Thread Starter 

Segbrown, and Smushie,

 

Thanks for all of your help and advice. I contacted Tiff Simpson at Irwin Guides. She was just awesome. I have a deposit put down for the 17th and 19th of March. The costs are $345.00 for a single person 1-1 with guide and  $395.00 for 2 people 2-1. I just purchased some RMU CRM 175s for a BC set up with Dukes I did this because my Moments were so heavy nearly 2300gm. When I bought the RMUs I said man these things are light. I guess that is wrong! Tiff advised me to rent from Alpiner in CB and have them rent me a touring set up. SHe said they would be much lighter and I would probably have an easier time with them. I am taking her advise as I have no knowledge about touring. 

 

Anyhow, Thank you all a bunch. I am so excited to give this a go with experienced and knowledgeable team to give me a 1st beginner lesson in the BC. I feel like a kid going on my 1st ski trip. very excited.

 

Thanks again

 

Bo

post #12 of 21

My bad Segbrown. You're absolutely correct. I knew the Irwin cat skiing was much more but didn't realize they offered a non-cat option. 

 

Glad you found what you were looking for b1. Let me know how it goes. I have (sea level) friends that visit regularly and would be interested in hiring a professional guide, so it would be great to hear a first-hand account.

post #13 of 21
Good info in here
post #14 of 21
Thread Starter 
Smushed, Segbrown,
I will definately give a trip update and how the guide fared with a no lung Texan. I'm really looking forward to the trip. I'm sure it will be great.

17th ad 19th aren't far away.

Bo
post #15 of 21
Thread Starter 

Hello all, I returned from CB to Magnolia, Tx today. Whew long drive, but worth every mile. Let me start by saying we were scheduled for 8 days of CB including 2 days with Irwin. My 98 year old grandfather died the week before we were to leave causing our trip to be a little shortened. So we were only able to spend 1 day with Irwin guides. On this guided tour I brought my 15 year old son.

 

Anyhow, I spoke to Tiff Simpson at Irwin Guides in CB and started planning the trip. I explained my and my sons skier level, what our goals were for the trip, etc... Tiff sent me the name of our guide so we could correspond before the trip, a BC check list, and a form where both my son and myself described a general history of not only our skiing but about our lives. Which turned out to be a great introduction for all of us. Tiff advised that we could use our own gear, but would recommend that we rent gear from "The Alpiner" in town. I told Tiff I hate rental equipment but would do as she advised after all she is the professional. My worries were unfounded about the equipment. I met Matt at the Alpiner who actually fitted me to correct boots for my type of foot, 101 last, narrow heel, flat footed, etc... we ended up with the Scarpa Freedom a very light 4 buckle boot that felt like a house slipper after I inserted my own custom footbeds. I prefer skiing a 178-180 length ski, so he hooked he up with a set of Volkl Nunataq 178-107 with Dynafit ST Tour bindings, BD skins and poles. I have dukes mounted on a set of RMU CRMs and could not believe the weight difference. This set up was a couple of pounds lighter than my set up. So after a tutorial on the bindings until I was comfortable, my son and I left the Alpiner ready to meet our guide the next morning.  

 

Our Guide Evan Ross actually called me 2 nights before our trip to go over the weather conditions and give us our options. On this call Evan said there was a storm coming in with RAIN not snow as was reported. Evan said he thought Friday would be a better day than thursday because of the cloudy day and rain (Not Snow) forecast. After talking with Evan we agreed on moving our trip one day to friday. We.We also talked about my son and I's goals for the trip. I advised that we wanted to learn as much as we could about the basics, from using the touring bindings to a kick turn, to learning a little about conditions, and of coarse some skiing. He offered for us to be able to take one long or about 3 hour tour with one long run out and hike to the truck or 3-4 smaller tours with shorter runouts but real close to the base of CB. We chose the several tours with shorter ski runs mainly for knowledge. We werent going on this trip solely to ski. My son and I discussed this being our foundation for future trips. Boy we made the right choice. Absolutely prefect day.

 

We decided to meet Evan at the Irwin office at 7:15am on friday morning. Upon pulling up we walked in and Evan was right there to greet us. Evan asked us to come sit down with him and in our own words tell him our story. So for 15 minutes or so we discussed our lives, where we have skied, runs we have taken, etc... Ill say this to tell you how the conversation want about our skills. He asked what was our favorite runs at CB. Both my son and I said INTERNATIONAL one fo the few BLACK runs at CB. Let me be clear I am not talking about DOUBLE BLACKs. Although we did ski the Wall next to Teocalli bowl which was closed. ACtually last week there were only 4 DB runs open everything else was roped off/closed. I will say my son llike the headwall or north face. I hated it because of the steepness, terrible icy conditions and little snow. It was just a little to much for me, and I was very uncomfortable with the conditions. And thats ok I dont have to be the guy that skis the steepest slope with the most technical lines. I can still have a blast everywhere else. Then we went through all of our gear and Evan advised what to take, wear, and leave behind. We went over how to use our AV Beacons, Shovels, and Probes and he fitted us with larger packs for our stuff. So then we were off on our 1st BC trip.

So after this talk Evan said we would be going to SNODGRASS about 10 minutes from town and right across the street from the huge terrain park jumps and Million dollar homes. Im sure a lot of people would have said what 10 minutes away from town, what a rip off thats not BC. WRONG at least for us SNODGRASS was perfect. Remember these people knew what we wanted to accomplish on this trip and this was the place chosen with those goals in mind. 

 

So we got our gear out of the truck and and stepped into our bindings with a few reminders and some beginner instructions. I have to say right from the start Evan Listened to our questions, and answered them thoughtfully never treating us like we were Idiots or like what a stupid question your asking. So we stepped in and took off. Evan showed us how to slide and not step so we would be more efficient in our technique. We picked this up quickly. We were amazed at how well the skins tracked up say a 30* incline. As we got better at skinning, we would or I could only last about 20 minutes at a time with out a 2-5 minute rest depending on the terrain. Even said he was very surprised at how well we or I help up with Sea level lungs and legs. and Im not anywhere near great shape. Im just an average guy not some fitness guy who runs every day. Matter of fact I dont run. I was so amazed at how fast you can get a face with such little effort. I will promise you could NOT walk up the same terrain we covered with or without snow as fast and easy as you can skin up it. Truly amazing. 

OK so after an hour up some exposed slopes, through Aspens, and fir patches we reached a place where we took our packs off, rested, hydrated, and had a snack. Evan pulled out something called "Texas Chili Mix" or something that my son Wyatt (W) and I loved. Durring this rest Evan advised that we would be taking a short ski run to get to another aspect of the mountain we were on. We were constantly moving around the mountain chasing the perfect snow. The temps were probably 45* and bluebird. so when we started to fall trough the snow we were already moving to the next aspect. Chasing the good stuff. We pulled off our skins and packed everything away and set our bindings up to ski.  I told Evan how I was not to confident in the pin bindings. Heck I ski in Dukes and Jesters with a din of 11-12. How in the heck are these little pins going to hold my big butt. I just could not wrap my mind around it. Anyhow the 1st run Evan told us to relax have have fun off of the features, spay em of bounce off of them or what ever. He just kept telling us to have fun with the space we had infront of us. So W dropped in I could tell a little nervous and did great. made a few turns and stopped where we were all to meet at. This was probably at 30-32* face that was untouched with about 900' of vert. and some through widely spaced aspens. For some reason This run sucked for me. I felt like a grown up on skis the 1st time. I So I dropped in. Nervous I turned my shoulders up hill causing over turns and back seat driving. after 2 or 3 fo these crap turns I started to relax and finshied the run a little more confident. NOT MUCH. When we reached the bottom I talked with Evan who reasurred me the binding were going to hold me and said I was probably scared because of new conditions (Not REsort), new conditions, and boots that flex like a house shoe. I ski in Rossi All Track 130s. Really stiff boots. So Evan told me to just relax. So we skinned up and flipped our bindings repacked and unlayered and headed to another aspect skinning around up and down the mountain. We even crossed a Creek, that was a heck of a challenge. Even showed us how and we got through it cleanly. I think because of my nervousness and Evan being the guide and mind reader he is pretty much left me alone on this trek not talking to much to me and more to Wyatt. He let me deal with my deamons and I did.

 

So we have toured about another 45 minutes and reached a beautiful wide open face that we would have to ski across a creek and a barbed wire fence (covered in snow) On this face Evan led off and made some crazy turns and a little just off of the second face and skied all the way to the next stopping point. Evan tried to show us how to have fun out of bounds. Here we dont have all of the rules that we do on the resort. Now of course we respected wild life, environment, and every thing else out in this beautiful area. So, I dropped in for my 2nd run of the day. Ok we were a little late to this aspect of the mountain but I made my turns letting our a whoop feeling the freedom. the only problem was when I tried to really hammer a turn I big tail would bust through the top layer. To explain this there was about 4-6" of corn then a thin ice layer with 2-3' deep of old powder. Then W dropped in and made his turns and joined us. So now we had to ski through some low angle terrain skiing over a creek at one point. and out into a flat. Where we took everything off and had lunch. After getting my legs a little more under me from run #2 I was ready to kill anything and everything. W was too. I know Evan could tell this so after a 15-20 minute lunch we had our longest tour of the day and a long way up and around another face to get to our starting point. We skinned about 45 more minutes to the top. Again none of this area had been skied. 

 

Oh I have to tell this part. Since the snow was getting how and a liitle crappy at lunch I flopped down on my ski jacket kind of hard and abruptly. when I did this it sounded like a sonic boom went off a long was off. What actually happened was I caused a collapse of a sheet about an acre in size this whole sheet probalbe fell a few inches. VERY COOL and a great learning experience. After I set this 1st one off as we were having lunch several more kept happening. Evan explained this to us although I cannot remember the name of it. But it was basically setting off an avalanche on a flat so it could not slide anywhere but just collapsed on its self. 

 

Ok so we finished lunch did the longest tour we had done. we learned Kick turns and A-Turns durring this tour. although not really a need for them because we were not on overly steep face. around 30*. WE could have just gone straight up with the skins. This was to be our last and longest run into a valley skiing over a snow covered fence and at one point a cat track ending at another creek. So Evan said he would ski down to mid way and take some photos of us skiing down we agreed and watched him carve and slash this face up just cruising like the pro he is to his stopping point. Really fun to watch this guy ski. W and I agreed I would drop in next, this time and I had decided to give it all I could. I had in my mind clean sharp turns, throw in some goofy slarvy turns. just do what ever i wanted when i wanted. I dropped in and made a straight line to the cat track and as soon as I hit the snow pack again I set off another sonic boom which collapsed about 4 inches all the way down the face. It actually knocked Evan down while he was turned sideways taking the photos. Although I never felt it. I just wondered what the heck Evan was doing. So I skied past him and stopped before the fence waiting on W to drop in. He did so and made cool turns but you could see his legs getting wider and wider. He and I were beat. So we all rested and talked for a minute and then skied down and across the fence and stopped before the creek. Nothing but awesome!!! While down in the valley there were several more sonic booms one of which we caused and I was able to see the wave of the boom ripple out away from us dropping the snow ground level 4-6". Very cool. I was so blessed to see this. Unbelievably cool. 

 

So now were skiing up for the skin out. Its kind of bitter sweet. I have not had a day skiing like this since I was a kid. Well POW days are awesome. But I still have to say this is the best. We skinned about a half mile up basicly the incline we had just skied. Evan said he would skin on ahead and hitch hike to the truck and come back and get us. W and I both took this as a challenge so we tried to keep up. So I was gutting it out and looking down at the tracks instead of out in front of me as he instructed. When I looked up the 1st time Evan was probably 100yds ahead of me and W about 40yds. I put my head down again and started grinding. after 10 minutes I looked up and Evan was gone and W was 100 yds ahead of me. Unbelievable how these young guys can fly around. I held my own though. 

 

So this was my introductory to BC touring and I was a blast. I was amazed at how easily you can travel with skis and not just downhill. Irwin guides Tiff and Evan were just a pleasure to be around and a wealth of knowledge. I would definitely recommend Irwin and Tiff and Evan. This was so fantastic. Now what did my son say about the trip. Let me say this the day before we found an app that would tell you how much Vert, Top Speed, Mile and feet traveled. steepest slope angle, etc... Well we skied 14K vert had a top speed of 54.6 mph. So he likes to hit it fast and hard and on steeps. Well International is his favorite run at CB. AFter we finished this trip he has not stopped talking about the BC trip. We both cannot wait for this next season. But its a testament to Tiff and Evan that they can take a 15 yr old and change him from a how many laps can I pull to a kid that wants to explore the BC. MAke no mistake we are not ready to head out by our selves in any shape of fashion. But we do have a foundation to build on. We will be back with Evan and Tiff this winter and cant wait untill our next trip.

 

As far as other sea level people wanting to take a tour in the BC Definitely go for it. I am not in great shape, I'm a 48 year old calf roper (Rodeo) guy with 2 ACL replacements. I have no problem on this tour. I will say I was brutally honest about my sons and my abilities. I did not want to get Evan or Tiff in trouble saving my butt because I was in over my head. This is a 1st class operations that can handle anything you want. Evan said that we did better than average for beginners and covered much more territory than he thought we could. He told us that the next trip he would difinately take us on longer slightly more technical tour, and that we would have no problem handeling it. We are now scheduling 3 tour days for around Christmas with them. I cant wait!!!

 

I am sorry i am not a professional writer but I did my best here and still left out so much. I just really hope this helps someone else if they are on the ropes about trying it. There is no getting around it is hard work, really hard work but it pays off in such huge dividends. Im hooked on the BC. I love earning my tearns.

 

Feel free to contact me with any questions or Evan or Tiffs contact information. They are the best.

 

Thanks for helping me SMUSHIE, SEGBROWN, JTNSKIS, SHREDHEAD, 

post #16 of 21
Thread Starter 

Hello all, I returned from CB to Magnolia, Tx today. Whew long drive, but worth every mile. Let me start by saying we were scheduled for 8 days of CB including 2 days with Irwin. My 98 year old grandfather died the week before we were to leave causing our trip to be a little shortened. So we were only able to spend 1 day with Irwin guides. On this guided tour I brought my 15 year old son.

 

Anyhow, I spoke to Tiff Simpson at Irwin Guides in CB and started planning the trip. I explained my and my sons skier level, what our goals were for the trip, etc... Tiff sent me the name of our guide so we could correspond before the trip, a BC check list, and a form where both my son and myself described a general history of not only our skiing but about our lives. Which turned out to be a great introduction for all of us. Tiff advised that we could use our own gear, but would recommend that we rent gear from "The Alpiner" in town. I told Tiff I hate rental equipment but would do as she advised after all she is the professional. My worries were unfounded about the equipment. I met Matt at the Alpiner who actually fitted me to correct boots for my type of foot, 101 last, narrow heel, flat footed, etc... we ended up with the Scarpa Freedom a very light 4 buckle boot that felt like a house slipper after I inserted my own custom footbeds. I prefer skiing a 178-180 length ski, so he hooked he up with a set of Volkl Nunataq 178-107 with Dynafit ST Tour bindings, BD skins and poles. I have dukes mounted on a set of RMU CRMs and could not believe the weight difference. This set up was a couple of pounds lighter than my set up. So after a tutorial on the bindings until I was comfortable, my son and I left the Alpiner ready to meet our guide the next morning.  

 

Our Guide Evan Ross actually called me 2 nights before our trip to go over the weather conditions and give us our options. On this call Evan said there was a storm coming in with RAIN not snow as was reported. Evan said he thought Friday would be a better day than thursday because of the cloudy day and rain (Not Snow) forecast. After talking with Evan we agreed on moving our trip one day to friday. We.We also talked about my son and I's goals for the trip. I advised that we wanted to learn as much as we could about the basics, from using the touring bindings to a kick turn, to learning a little about conditions, and of coarse some skiing. He offered for us to be able to take one long or about 3 hour tour with one long run out and hike to the truck or 3-4 smaller tours with shorter runouts but real close to the base of CB. We chose the several tours with shorter ski runs mainly for knowledge. We werent going on this trip solely to ski. My son and I discussed this being our foundation for future trips. Boy we made the right choice. Absolutely prefect day.

 

We decided to meet Evan at the Irwin office at 7:15am on friday morning. Upon pulling up we walked in and Evan was right there to greet us. Evan asked us to come sit down with him and in our own words tell him our story. So for 15 minutes or so we discussed our lives, where we have skied, runs we have taken, etc... Ill say this to tell you how the conversation want about our skills. He asked what was our favorite runs at CB. Both my son and I said INTERNATIONAL one fo the few BLACK runs at CB. Let me be clear I am not talking about DOUBLE BLACKs. Although we did ski the Wall next to Teocalli bowl which was closed. ACtually last week there were only 4 DB runs open everything else was roped off/closed. I will say my son llike the headwall or north face. I hated it because of the steepness, terrible icy conditions and little snow. It was just a little to much for me, and I was very uncomfortable with the conditions. And thats ok I dont have to be the guy that skis the steepest slope with the most technical lines. I can still have a blast everywhere else. Then we went through all of our gear and Evan advised what to take, wear, and leave behind. We went over how to use our AV Beacons, Shovels, and Probes and he fitted us with larger packs for our stuff. So then we were off on our 1st BC trip.

So after this talk Evan said we would be going to SNODGRASS about 10 minutes from town and right across the street from the huge terrain park jumps and Million dollar homes. Im sure a lot of people would have said what 10 minutes away from town, what a rip off thats not BC. WRONG at least for us SNODGRASS was perfect. Remember these people knew what we wanted to accomplish on this trip and this was the place chosen with those goals in mind. 

 

So we got our gear out of the truck and and stepped into our bindings with a few reminders and some beginner instructions. I have to say right from the start Evan Listened to our questions, and answered them thoughtfully never treating us like we were Idiots or like what a stupid question your asking. So we stepped in and took off. Evan showed us how to slide and not step so we would be more efficient in our technique. We picked this up quickly. We were amazed at how well the skins tracked up say a 30* incline. As we got better at skinning, we would or I could only last about 20 minutes at a time with out a 2-5 minute rest depending on the terrain. Even said he was very surprised at how well we or I help up with Sea level lungs and legs. and Im not anywhere near great shape. Im just an average guy not some fitness guy who runs every day. Matter of fact I dont run. I was so amazed at how fast you can get a face with such little effort. I will promise you could NOT walk up the same terrain we covered with or without snow as fast and easy as you can skin up it. Truly amazing. 

OK so after an hour up some exposed slopes, through Aspens, and fir patches we reached a place where we took our packs off, rested, hydrated, and had a snack. Evan pulled out something called "Texas Chili Mix" or something that my son Wyatt (W) and I loved. Durring this rest Evan advised that we would be taking a short ski run to get to another aspect of the mountain we were on. We were constantly moving around the mountain chasing the perfect snow. The temps were probably 45* and bluebird. so when we started to fall trough the snow we were already moving to the next aspect. Chasing the good stuff. We pulled off our skins and packed everything away and set our bindings up to ski.  I told Evan how I was not to confident in the pin bindings. Heck I ski in Dukes and Jesters with a din of 11-12. How in the heck are these little pins going to hold my big butt. I just could not wrap my mind around it. Anyhow the 1st run Evan told us to relax have have fun off of the features, spay em of bounce off of them or what ever. He just kept telling us to have fun with the space we had infront of us. So W dropped in I could tell a little nervous and did great. made a few turns and stopped where we were all to meet at. This was probably at 30-32* face that was untouched with about 900' of vert. and some through widely spaced aspens. For some reason This run sucked for me. I felt like a grown up on skis the 1st time. I So I dropped in. Nervous I turned my shoulders up hill causing over turns and back seat driving. after 2 or 3 fo these crap turns I started to relax and finshied the run a little more confident. NOT MUCH. When we reached the bottom I talked with Evan who reasurred me the binding were going to hold me and said I was probably scared because of new conditions (Not REsort), new conditions, and boots that flex like a house shoe. I ski in Rossi All Track 130s. Really stiff boots. So Evan told me to just relax. So we skinned up and flipped our bindings repacked and unlayered and headed to another aspect skinning around up and down the mountain. We even crossed a Creek, that was a heck of a challenge. Even showed us how and we got through it cleanly. I think because of my nervousness and Evan being the guide and mind reader he is pretty much left me alone on this trek not talking to much to me and more to Wyatt. He let me deal with my deamons and I did.

 

So we have toured about another 45 minutes and reached a beautiful wide open face that we would have to ski across a creek and a barbed wire fence (covered in snow) On this face Evan led off and made some crazy turns and a little just off of the second face and skied all the way to the next stopping point. Evan tried to show us how to have fun out of bounds. Here we dont have all of the rules that we do on the resort. Now of course we respected wild life, environment, and every thing else out in this beautiful area. So, I dropped in for my 2nd run of the day. Ok we were a little late to this aspect of the mountain but I made my turns letting our a whoop feeling the freedom. the only problem was when I tried to really hammer a turn I big tail would bust through the top layer. To explain this there was about 4-6" of corn then a thin ice layer with 2-3' deep of old powder. Then W dropped in and made his turns and joined us. So now we had to ski through some low angle terrain skiing over a creek at one point. and out into a flat. Where we took everything off and had lunch. After getting my legs a little more under me from run #2 I was ready to kill anything and everything. W was too. I know Evan could tell this so after a 15-20 minute lunch we had our longest tour of the day and a long way up and around another face to get to our starting point. We skinned about 45 more minutes to the top. Again none of this area had been skied. 

 

Oh I have to tell this part. Since the snow was getting how and a liitle crappy at lunch I flopped down on my ski jacket kind of hard and abruptly. when I did this it sounded like a sonic boom went off a long was off. What actually happened was I caused a collapse of a sheet about an acre in size this whole sheet probalbe fell a few inches. VERY COOL and a great learning experience. After I set this 1st one off as we were having lunch several more kept happening. Evan explained this to us although I cannot remember the name of it. But it was basically setting off an avalanche on a flat so it could not slide anywhere but just collapsed on its self. 

 

Ok so we finished lunch did the longest tour we had done. we learned Kick turns and A-Turns durring this tour. although not really a need for them because we were not on overly steep face. around 30*. WE could have just gone straight up with the skins. This was to be our last and longest run into a valley skiing over a snow covered fence and at one point a cat track ending at another creek. So Evan said he would ski down to mid way and take some photos of us skiing down we agreed and watched him carve and slash this face up just cruising like the pro he is to his stopping point. Really fun to watch this guy ski. W and I agreed I would drop in next, this time and I had decided to give it all I could. I had in my mind clean sharp turns, throw in some goofy slarvy turns. just do what ever i wanted when i wanted. I dropped in and made a straight line to the cat track and as soon as I hit the snow pack again I set off another sonic boom which collapsed about 4 inches all the way down the face. It actually knocked Evan down while he was turned sideways taking the photos. Although I never felt it. I just wondered what the heck Evan was doing. So I skied past him and stopped before the fence waiting on W to drop in. He did so and made cool turns but you could see his legs getting wider and wider. He and I were beat. So we all rested and talked for a minute and then skied down and across the fence and stopped before the creek. Nothing but awesome!!! While down in the valley there were several more sonic booms one of which we caused and I was able to see the wave of the boom ripple out away from us dropping the snow ground level 4-6". Very cool. I was so blessed to see this. Unbelievably cool. 

 

So now were skiing up for the skin out. Its kind of bitter sweet. I have not had a day skiing like this since I was a kid. Well POW days are awesome. But I still have to say this is the best. We skinned about a half mile up basicly the incline we had just skied. Evan said he would skin on ahead and hitch hike to the truck and come back and get us. W and I both took this as a challenge so we tried to keep up. So I was gutting it out and looking down at the tracks instead of out in front of me as he instructed. When I looked up the 1st time Evan was probably 100yds ahead of me and W about 40yds. I put my head down again and started grinding. after 10 minutes I looked up and Evan was gone and W was 100 yds ahead of me. Unbelievable how these young guys can fly around. I held my own though. 

 

So this was my introductory to BC touring and I was a blast. I was amazed at how easily you can travel with skis and not just downhill. Irwin guides Tiff and Evan were just a pleasure to be around and a wealth of knowledge. I would definitely recommend Irwin and Tiff and Evan. This was so fantastic. Now what did my son say about the trip. Let me say this the day before we found an app that would tell you how much Vert, Top Speed, Mile and feet traveled. steepest slope angle, etc... Well we skied 14K vert had a top speed of 54.6 mph. So he likes to hit it fast and hard and on steeps. Well International is his favorite run at CB. AFter we finished this trip he has not stopped talking about the BC trip. We both cannot wait for this next season. But its a testament to Tiff and Evan that they can take a 15 yr old and change him from a how many laps can I pull to a kid that wants to explore the BC. MAke no mistake we are not ready to head out by our selves in any shape of fashion. But we do have a foundation to build on. We will be back with Evan and Tiff this winter and cant wait untill our next trip.

 

As far as other sea level people wanting to take a tour in the BC Definitely go for it. I am not in great shape, I'm a 48 year old calf roper (Rodeo) guy with 2 ACL replacements. I have no problem on this tour. I will say I was brutally honest about my sons and my abilities. I did not want to get Evan or Tiff in trouble saving my butt because I was in over my head. This is a 1st class operations that can handle anything you want. Evan said that we did better than average for beginners and covered much more territory than he thought we could. He told us that the next trip he would difinately take us on longer slightly more technical tour, and that we would have no problem handeling it. We are now scheduling 3 tour days for around Christmas with them. I cant wait!!!

 

I am sorry i am not a professional writer but I did my best here and still left out so much. I just really hope this helps someone else if they are on the ropes about trying it. There is no getting around it is hard work, really hard work but it pays off in such huge dividends. Im hooked on the BC. I love earning my tearns.

 

Feel free to contact me with any questions or Evan or Tiffs contact information. They are the best.

 

Thanks for helping me SMUSHIE, SEGBROWN, JTNSKIS, SHREDHEAD, 

post #17 of 21
Thread Starter 

Smushie, Did you get to read my review? 

 

Im not sure if when you post that it goes to everyone who talked on the thread. 

 

HAve a great day.

 

Bo 

post #18 of 21

Hi Bo, Just had a chance to check out your review. This season is basically over but I'm definitely going to take some friends out with the Irwin guides next year. Thanks so much for the glowing recommendation. 

post #19 of 21
Thread Starter 

Hare are a few pics of my son and I touring around CB with Irwin Guides. Best trip ever!!!

 

WE will be back this winter for 9 days. because of Irwin. 

 

Bo & W

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

post #20 of 21
Season's over? Was it over when the German's bombed Pearl Harbor?

They just set the record for the Grand Traverse!
post #21 of 21
Thread Starter 

Just another quick update concerning Irwin guides in CB including Tiff (GM) and Evan (Guide). I know a lot of Guides or sales people tell people stuff every day to just put a smile on the purchasers face and get them out the door. That is not the case with Irwin and Tiff or Evan.

 

Both of these great people told me after our trip that my son or I could contact them at any time to seek advice on gear like, ski set ups, backpacks, Poles, etc... Well I took them to task. I have emailed 2 times and received a timely response both times. These are great people who mean what they say. Now Evan has not told me to buy certain skis or setups. But he advised me as to what his opinion is of the gear, style of skiing I do, and realistically what would be the best for a 20-30 day a year skier.  

 

These guys are 1st class and live up to their word. Very impressive. 

 

If you want to go on a ski tour or bike tour give these guys a call. Im sure you will talk to Tiff, ask for Evan to guide you. You will not be sorry. 

 

My son and I will also be heading to CB this fall for the 1st AV1 training they put on. 

 

Have a great day everyone.

 

Bo

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