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Ski length HELP!

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
I'm New to the ski world have always been a snowboarder. I am excited to get started but I'm very confused on the ski length. I usually pick up very fast when it comes to these types of sports. I am 5'9" 240 pounds, but athletic. I could really use some advice on a good overall ski length. Thanks very much!
post #2 of 14

Hi

 

Why jumping so fast on ski length question? So many other factors to think about, such as width, shovel size, type of rocker, type of tail, flex, binding system, weight, swing momentum, torsional rigidity, etc, etc :)

 

Did you get your boots sorted first? Have you checked the links below?

http://www.epicski.com/a/five-key-questions-when-buying-new-skis
http://www.epicski.com/a/choosing-a-ski-length
http://www.epicski.com/a/boot-fitting-which-boot-will-work-for-me


If you progress fast, your ski preferences will change fast. Demo and rent for a while to try to sort what you like more (and that depends on what and where you ski the most)

 

You probably can use from 168 to 188 cm, but really it depends on lots of factors

 

Best to start with boots, and rent or demo skis for a while, until you decide what you like most, in which length, etc


Good luck

post #3 of 14

The appropriate length of ski for you will depend on the type of turns you are making.

 

That's actually a good thing, because once you decide what type of turn you are making, manufactures will offer an appropriate ski in a range of lengths.  Choose the largest length available in that type of ski.

 

If you are skiing along faster than 97% of the other skiers on the hill, you are likely making GS or larger turns, so choose a ski with a turn radius greater than 18 m.  If you ski slowly you most likely are making short turns, choose a ski with a 13 (or shorter) turn radius.

post #4 of 14

rent: 165 - 170 length, see how it works.

post #5 of 14
At 240lbs you're going to want skis in the 180-186ish range if you like to ski fast.
post #6 of 14
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by clink83 View Post

At 240lbs you're going to want skis in the 180-186ish range if you like to ski fast.

Will it not be more difficult with longer skis ?
post #7 of 14

If newbie,

Just go with the standard formula, chin for beginners; your height for more advanced.   Until you've graudated out of newbie.  

Because you weigh more than average, instead of going longer, you can gravitate towards stouter skis; until at least you graduate out of newbie and find out what you like.  

post #8 of 14

Newbie:

 

-- means ski on groomers aka packed snow, so no long ski needed (180 -186 ski are trouble in this case(beginner skier)).

5'9'' is about 175, so ski at 170 is probably a max/stretch 

-- take some lessons, at least few, even group lesson could help

-- boots: nice to have your own, but not sure if you are ready to invest $$.

   Flex, consider your weight probably around 90-100 (but this should be discussed with boot-fitter if you are on the route to buy boots; not a bad idea; but I would suggest to demo (not rent) boots as well to figure out how it works.)

post #9 of 14

Ski swaps are your friend buy one of each for 50 bucks learn to mount and tune skis. Edge grip is everything!! Expect to out grow a couple of pairs of skis if you're a fast learner. 

post #10 of 14
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Originally Posted by mchldelf View Post

I'm New to the ski world have always been a snowboarder. I am excited to get started but I'm very confused on the ski length. I usually pick up very fast when it comes to these types of sports. I am 5'9" 240 pounds, but athletic. I could really use some advice on a good overall ski length. Thanks very much!

 

 

Got boots?

post #11 of 14

As has been mentioned, boots are what you need first.  Since you're a snowboarder, you may think that ski boots are like snowboard boots.  They are not.  Snowboard boots are comfortable for walking, sitting, hanging around even.  Ski boots are none of those and because they aren't it is very important that you get them from someone who knows how they are supposed to fit, not just some kid in a big box sporting goods store who's first question is "what size shoe do you wear?"  Go to the "Ask the Boot Guys" forum and read the wikis about fitting and terminology, then check the "Who's Who" to see if there is a boot fitter listed near you.  If there is, call and make an appointment.  If there isn't, ask us and someone will be able to recommend a fitter.

 

And don't even think about buying boots on the internet.  Unless you already know exactly what you need, it never turns out well.

post #12 of 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oleg S View Post

Newbie:

-- means ski on groomers aka packed snow, so no long ski needed (180 -186 ski are trouble in this case(beginner skier)).
5'9'' is about 175, so ski at 170 is probably a max/stretch 
-- take some lessons, at least few, even group lesson could help
-- boots: nice to have your own, but not sure if you are ready to invest $$.
   Flex, consider your weight probably around 90-100 (but this should be discussed with boot-fitter if you are on the route to buy boots; not a bad idea; but I would suggest to demo (not rent) boots as well to figure out how it works.)
A 90-100 flex boot for a 240 lb man is rather soft, regardless of skill level. You can make a stiffer boot soft, but making a soft boot stiff is much harder. At 500-800 a pop, replacing too soft boots can get expensive quick.

A longer ski isn't harder to ski, its dependent more on flex/rocker profile than length. Since most skis for inermediates have early rise, you can ski a longer ski since they have less effective edge and easy turn invitation. With early rise you can ski a stiffer ski than you would with a full cambered ski sonce they do skidded turns easier. A 240lb man on a 170cm ski is going to overpower it unless its a very stiff SL carver, which isn't a good choice.
post #13 of 14
Once you've got boots, then demo skis. Try different lengths in different models. There's no hard & fast rule for length, it's about finding the right combination to allow you to have fun.
post #14 of 14

as been said before, there is no absolute formula for either boots, boot flex or ski length.

So, may be start with boots, go to demo center and take a demo, ask local employee to suggest you one; test it, next try to demo the softer, and with higher flex... see what you like more. If you don't feel the difference, take what was recommended originally. That will be you starting point for choosing boots.

I think, choosing the ski is about similar pattern, but you would have to take into consideration: where are you planning to ski (east/west, which resort, etc).

 

BTW, I still would not suggest 180 cm skis for beginner, even if beginner is over 200 lb.

here is the link for the PRO SL ski sizes (BTW, their skis are very stiff) http://www.the-raceplace.com/How-to-Size-Race-Skis-s/6325.htm

so for 175 cm they would recommend ski 165-180 cm; not exactly for beginners or beginner's ski, but try to demo around 170, next try 175 and see how do you feel, and of course asking suggestions from the ski shop at the resort would not hurt. 

 

P.S. if you get skis which are too long, it would be really hard to manage them; if you get a boots which are too stiff, you are going to be on the 'back seat' all the time, both cases could lead to injuries

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