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Lens help for Smith IO/7. What replacement lens will suit me best?

post #1 of 17
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Hey dudes and dudettes. I'm looking to find the best lens combination for my Smith IO/7 for Colorado snowfields. I ride mainly up at Winter Park, Breck, Vail, Eldora etc.

 

I'm considering the blackout (or Green Sol-X) for bright conditions, and the blue or red sensor for low light. Would these be good choices?

post #2 of 17

yup. Some folks don't like the red sensor, the blue sensor is generally well liked. 

post #3 of 17
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Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post
 

yup. Some folks don't like the red sensor, the blue sensor is generally well liked. 

 

Maybe I'll go with the blue sensor and blackout then.

post #4 of 17
I have the blue sensor and the red sol-x and have been quite happy.
post #5 of 17

I've tried blue sensor and red sensor, I actually like the red sensor better.  I like the color of the tint (what they look like to me while looking through them, not what they look like to everyone else), it's a little more neutral gray instead of yellow.  I haven't perceived a noticeable difference in how well they do in flat light.  Also even though the visible light % isn't hugely different, I find the red sensor to be a little better if the sun does happen to peak out while you're wearing them (less squinting).  Neither is all that good in that respect, though.

 

I've also tried both the green sol-x and the red sol-x and don't notice any difference in terms of darkness.  They have a little different color tint so you could prefer one vs. the other possibly based on that.

 

Never tried the blackout, I'd mostly be concerned about how it does on mountains with a lot of shadows due to the aspect.  If you're always in full CO sun while wearing it, it'd probably do fine.

post #6 of 17

I like the Ignitor Mirror for Sun and the Blue or Red Sensor for clouds. The Blackout is a bit too dark for me. They also have a new Yellow Sensor Mirror which is supposedly even better in flat light than the Red and Blue. I'd like to try it. YMMV.

post #7 of 17
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Originally Posted by vision-quest View Post

Hey dudes and dudettes. I'm looking to find the best lens combination for my Smith IO/7 for Colorado snowfields. I ride mainly up at Winter Park, Breck, Vail, Eldora etc.

I'm considering the blackout (or Green Sol-X) for bright conditions, and the blue or red sensor for low light. Would these be good choices?

Yes. Spot on.
post #8 of 17
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Originally Posted by COSkiGirl View Post

I have the blue sensor and the red sol-x and have been quite happy.

And this combo too... The black out makes sense above tree line in the longer days of spring at altitude.
post #9 of 17

I have the Blue Sensor Mirror and use it on all but the sunniest of days. It works well in flat light, overcast/storm days, & in the afternoon shadows. I also have the blackout which I've hardly used but suspect I will later in the season.  My goggles came with the Photochromic Red Sensor Lens which I found to have too much blue tint for my tastes and to be worthless in low/flat light conditions.  Blister Gear Reviews has a Smith Goggle Lens guide that gives a pretty good summary of the available replacement lenses. Blue Sensor (rose base tint) is my all-around lens.

post #10 of 17

I have the blue sensor / red sol-x combo

 

I like the blue sensor (in the beginning I thought I was going to miss the pink-ish/vermillion tint of my previous cloudy goggles but actually I think its just as good (I didnt fint it "holy shit best lens ever for flat light so much better than anything that came since sliced bread", which is how some people describe it).

 

I have some issues with the red sol-x exactly on what jaobrien mentioned: If you are in a place where you enter and exit shadowed areas a lot its kind of a pain in bright days. I didnt like that a lot. As the blackout is even darker than the red sol-x, I wonder if it would suffer of a similar problem...

 

If I ever buy a replacement lens, it will be something a but more in the middle. I always thought that it would be better to have a very high VLT lens paired with a very low VLT lens, but this shadow issue made me think that the situation is not so black and white

post #11 of 17
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Originally Posted by IceCookie View Post

 

If I ever buy a replacement lens, it will be something a but more in the middle. I always thought that it would be better to have a very high VLT lens paired with a very low VLT lens, but this shadow issue made me think that the situation is not so black and white

 

If you go that route, take a look at the Ignitor.  It's a very good lens for that middle of the road, broken clouds kind of day.  Does much, much better in the shadows than the sol-x, IMO.

post #12 of 17
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Originally Posted by jaobrien6 View Post
 

 

If you go that route, take a look at the Ignitor.  It's a very good lens for that middle of the road, broken clouds kind of day.  Does much, much better in the shadows than the sol-x, IMO.

 

How about the Green for that situation? A little less intense on the VLT scale than the Blackout.

post #13 of 17
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How about the Green for that situation? A little less intense on the VLT scale than the Blackout.

 

I like the Ignitor better when I'm going to be going in and out of shade a lot, skiing lots of trees, skiing north facing slopes, etc.  I have a buddy who is perfectly happy to use the red sol-x on those days, though, so a lot depends on personal preference (and probably how light-sensitive your eyes are I think).

 

I use my sol-x on days when I think I'm skiing mostly or exclusively in the sun (spring days where you don't really want to be in the shade anyway because it's still very firm, for example).

 

Also, a lot depends on where you're skiing.  I ski in the PNW, so higher latitudes and lower elevations compared to Colorado.  Our sun simply isn't as bright here.

post #14 of 17
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Originally Posted by jaobrien6 View Post
 

 

I like the Ignitor better when I'm going to be going in and out of shade a lot, skiing lots of trees, skiing north facing slopes, etc.  I have a buddy who is perfectly happy to use the red sol-x on those days, though, so a lot depends on personal preference (and probably how light-sensitive your eyes are I think).

 

I use my sol-x on days when I think I'm skiing mostly or exclusively in the sun (spring days where you don't really want to be in the shade anyway because it's still very firm, for example).

 

Also, a lot depends on where you're skiing.  I ski in the PNW, so higher latitudes and lower elevations compared to Colorado.  Our sun simply isn't as bright here.

 

Yeah I understand. I'm wondering if the darker green and blackout would fair better for the sun over here, it's pretty intense.

post #15 of 17
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Originally Posted by vision-quest View Post

 

Yeah I understand. I'm wondering if the darker green and blackout would fair better for the sun over here, it's pretty intense.

 

Most likely, IMO.  I wasn't recommending the Ignitor as a bright sun lens, but in response to IceCookie's desire to find something more in the middle.  It's a pretty versatile all around lens, but definitely not as good in bright sun as the sol-x options.

post #16 of 17
PNW peeps, careful! We're at a lower angle from the sun, and lower altitude.
post #17 of 17
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PNW peeps, careful! We're at a lower angle from the sun, and lower altitude.

Is that directed at me? I'm definitely aware of that and already made that same point as a qualifier to my statements a few posts back.
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