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'14 mantra vs '15 bones vs nrgy100

post #1 of 21
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I'm torn between these 3. I'm currently on élan 88xti in 178. I'm looking for something with a little more all mountain capability. Any info or suggestion would be helpful. I'm 6' 190 and ski just about anything except dbl black bump runs.

I am open to other ski options as well, I'm just not that knowledgeable about what's out there.
Thks
post #2 of 21

Start by reading this comparison: Mantra vs. Bonafide vs NRGy100 Granted it is with the 2015 Mantra but it will give you a good basis. 

post #3 of 21
Thread Starter 
I did read all reviews both from the manufacturers and on here and it seems like there are very different opinions out there.
post #4 of 21
Thread Starter 
My issue is, I was sold on the mantra until I heard all the negativity about the rocker and how it's not near the same ski. I guess that's kinda the issue in having with the new bone as well. I'm unable to demo any of these so I'm trying to gather as much info as I can. Thks
post #5 of 21
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Originally Posted by luke21079 View Post

I did read all reviews both from the manufacturers and on here and it seems like there are very different opinions out there.

 

Which is why you need to demo.  Everyone has different tastes in skis, and it's quite difficult to match a ski to your preferences without demoing.  Mind if I ask why you can't demo?  

post #6 of 21
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I live in Michigan and none of the places here offer these skis for demo as they're not really midwest skis. I already took my trips out west for the year and I am not going back till next year. I have skied the old mantra and old bones so I have s reference point at least.
post #7 of 21
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I live in Michigan and none of the places here offer these skis for demo as they're not really midwest skis. I already took my trips out west for the year and I am not going back till next year. I have skied the old mantra and old bones so I have s reference point at least.

So..what are you looking for the ski to do that the old Mantra and Bonafide isn't doing for you? 

post #8 of 21
Thread Starter 
Nothing necessarily, I was pretty fine with getting a '13 mantra or '14 bone but then after reading the manufacturer description of the new ones it seems they maybe made them a bit more versatile but then the more I read the more it seems like most people reefer the old designs.
post #9 of 21
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Originally Posted by luke21079 View Post

Nothing necessarily, I was pretty fine with getting a '13 mantra or '14 bone but then after reading the manufacturer description of the new ones it seems they maybe made them a bit more versatile but then the more I read the more it seems like most people reefer the old designs.

Sounds like you struck oil with either of the previous ones. There are still some leftover cambered Mantras around, @Trekchick has some at True North and @blizzimages is selling some of this years in the Swap section Bonafides for sale Either are going to save you enough over this years to pretty much give you enough to cover the cost of bindings. 

post #10 of 21
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Yeah that was kinda my thinking @philpug I just wasn't sure if the new rockered mantra or the '15 bone with the carbon tip would give me a little more forgiveness when I torture myself in bumps and trees without sacrificing what those skis are known for.
post #11 of 21
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Yeah that was kinda my thinking @philpug I just wasn't sure if the new rockered mantra or the '15 bone with the carbon tip would give me a little more forgiveness when I torture myself in bumps and trees without sacrificing what those skis are known for.

New Mantra, a significant yes over the previous generation, the new Bonafide, an evolution but this years is still a fine ski and if you want the desk for this year I would jump on it. 

post #12 of 21

Do you have a wider ski for powder days?  If not, I'd go with the old Bone over the old Mantra as it's going to be a better soft snow ski, and in general more versatile.

post #13 of 21
For Michigan, I'd chose the Nrgy or Exp-98 or 100 for the piste edge grip.
post #14 of 21
Thread Starter 
No @tball being that I ski mostly Michigan apart from 6-10 days out west a yr I'm looking for a 1 ski quiver that will be versatile. I do have narrower skis I hop on for icy Michigan days. I guess that's why the new rocker mantra, carbon tip bone and nrgy 100 caught me eye is it seems they took the older designs and tweaked them for more versatility.
post #15 of 21
... Or wait for the new Enforcer for your trips west. Great ski that would cover all the bases in spades.
post #16 of 21
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Originally Posted by markojp View Post

... Or wait for the new Enforcer for your trips west. Great ski that would cover all the bases in spades.

Why wait, it is available now. 

post #17 of 21
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

Why wait, it is available now. 

There you go!
post #18 of 21
Thread Starter 
Thanks now I have to throw another ski in the mix. Back to reading reviews I guess lol. Can't seem to find enforcers anywhere online though.
post #19 of 21

The Enforcer they are talking about is next years ski, it is available from some shops already but it is a 2016 product. Search for '2016 Nordica Enforcer Ski' and you should find some results. I found some in about .0003 seconds via the google machine.

 

... but I think you are looking at skis 1 width category too wide for an 'all-mountain OSQ' for someone who is in Michigan and skis 6-10 days a season out west. 

 

The magic of the 98/100 skis is that they are rarely the 'wrong ski', the problem is they are almost never the 'right ski'. Ski area locals who ski multiple times per week and can cherry-pick the hours they ski love these for a good reason, for most others they are kidding themselves that these skis don't significantly compromise their ski experience. 

post #20 of 21
IMHO, if the OP already owns a nice narrow ski for MI, then a 98/100 will make a great western trip ski and be a lot of fun during lake effect cycles at home. smile.gif

Of the skis I've tested this season, for MI, I'd own a Rossi Hero Master and an Enforcer.
post #21 of 21
Thread Starter 
Yeah I think I'll hold out for the enforcers. I'm not in a hurry as I'll just be riding my narrow race skis the rest of the yr.
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