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post #31 of 37
If the skating and starts are slow, you're done before you start. Long term, yes, you have to build explosive strength in your upper body. Many older skiers are very limited in mobility in their hips, abductors and adductors of their legs. Limited mobility means poor and stiff skating, and doesn't allow them to move and balance efficiently over one ski... they make herky jerky lateral moves, but can't move effectively forward. Yes, there's technique to strong skating skills even if the strength and mobility are there. Sure, double check equipment and alignment, but chances are the problem is more solvable with some video, coaching, and a lot of practice. Do you ever just practice starts and skating to speed? If not, do.
Edited by markojp - 2/27/15 at 10:36pm
post #32 of 37

It's not about the tune in the first couple of gates it's about the speed and even more so the flex of the ski. Ya can't bend a GS  ski at that speed........and on Race Stock Gs ski the tip isn't wide enough to pull you into the turn by just tipping the ski and standing on it. You will just fall over like the trike rider  on Laugh -in!

 

 

Ya gotta skate and step 'em around until you have the speed to bend 'em!

 

Like Mark says ya gotta get your skating skills up.  I will also submit becoming a good skater will dramatically increase your overall ski technique


Edited by Atomicman - 2/27/15 at 10:46am
post #33 of 37

Atomicman is right on here.

There is as much to be gained in the first three gates as the rest of the course.

Study the set of these gates carefully, usually the best line to the first gate is not straight.

Skating can help a lot unless the first gate is very close to the start,

Sometimes it is better to pole twice and concentrate on a good step turn at the first gate.

A good dig with the poles between the first and second gates is sometimes better than a skate step.

I can still bench my body weight about 10 times but have very short legs, poling hard is faster for me than a tentative skate step.

Skating practice is very  good for advanced skiing.

A really energetic GS turn feels to me a lot like a skate step where you project your COM forward as you skate off the edge of your ski.

post #34 of 37
Hence the longer poles.
post #35 of 37
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Originally Posted by dakine View Post
 

Atomicman is right on here.

There is as much to be gained in the first three gates as the rest of the course.

Study the set of these gates carefully, usually the best line to the first gate is not straight.

Skating can help a lot unless the first gate is very close to the start,

Sometimes it is better to pole twice and concentrate on a good step turn at the first gate.

A good dig with the poles between the first and second gates is sometimes better than a skate step.

I can still bench my body weight about 10 times but have very short legs, poling hard is faster for me than a tentative skate step.

Skating practice is very  good for advanced skiing.

A really energetic GS turn feels to me a lot like a skate step where you project your COM forward as you skate off the edge of your ski.

:beercheer:

post #36 of 37

I wish I had seen this earlier.  As to the original question.. YES new tech CAN help move you up a flight or two.  At least it did for me (a 52 year old 215lb club racer) in Slalom.  I picked up a new pair of Nordica SLs and with the help of SS I am now sitting (about in the middle) of the silver SL division now whereas last year I was a mid-high Bronze level most of the season.

 

My GS needs more work and I am still racing some '11 27m Fischer skis there so my next move is to also pick up a nie pair of either the Nordica or Blizzard GS skis (I believe that they are both made in the same factory with simply a different topsheet from one brand to the other) so try the Nordica GSs

post #37 of 37

You mentioned you've been skiing on your Fiscer RC4s for a few years now. Not knowing how many days you've skied, is it possible you've worn them out? In such a case a newer ski could have a significant effect on your times. 

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