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post #1 of 9
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First post so sorry if I break some rules just trying to get a little quick turn advice on my real first big gear purchase in like forever and trying to not screw it up!

 

As the title states I am looking for an all mountain front ski that I can take on groomers, do moguls, follow borders into some powder and chop through crappy snow (because I have it).  I primarily ski in Tahoe, but I have also been trying out new places.  BC, Utah, CO, Europe.  I want something that can do a lot of varied terrain.  

 

Background: 5'11 195# 30 yo skiing since I was 4, but I don't get as many days in a year as a want typically ~ 5-15.  I am coming from a ski i have been on for a VERY VERY long time.  And it has done me okay. I got the ski in early high school and know absolutely nothing about what type of ski it is.  Other than being old and straight.  I am coming from a 174 Rossignol VR2.  Looks very similar to this.  I know it is thin 85/65/75 and I have been doing my best to ski it everywhere.  I would say I am an advanced skier, but I certainly don't charge double black steep bowls, blacks are fine but heavy crud and powder are difficult for sure.  On these skis I am not good in powder, but follow my boarding friends anyway and manage.  I definitely enjoy some moguls now and again.  

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What I am looking for:  After reading online and stopping in a few shops I have been looking at the following:

K2 Rictor 90XTI - 177 cm

Blizzard brahma - 180 cm

Dynastar power track 89 - 179 cm

Volkl Kendo - 177 cm

Line Prophet 90 -179 cm

 

I am not looking for anything extreme just something I can use to go mostly anywhere and does not hold me back trying to develop my technique and do more difficult runs.  

 

Coming from a very skinny straight ski I don't think I want to jump to something 95+ in the waist.  I am going up to Tahoe for a week and would like to buy something ahead of time, but I want to be confident that I will like it for a long while.  

 

I am also looking at getting new bindings and boots.  Boots I think are easy to buy... ~90 stiffness and fit good, snug and comfortable.

 

Binding...:  How important are these to skiing feel?  I did bust my ACL in switzerland a few years ago (repaired) and have been skiing the past two years with some getting back into the swing of things caution... My knee injury made me look into well... knee bindings... I was told they use old tech expect their lateral heel release.  opinions?  Just looking to not hurt my knee again.

 

Anywho, I am trying to buy these skis in the next week for my trip starting Feb 28th.  Any help, advice or anything would be greatly appreciated!  Thanks!


Edited by rtabagaboy - 2/21/15 at 12:57am
post #2 of 9
Welcome to EpicSki. Personally I would go wider since it sounds like you want a one ski quiver. ~100mm is a good width for this type of ski, so 97-103mm waist, camber and at least some tip rocker. If I had to choose only one ski, this is where I would look. My first choice would be the new Nordica Enforcer, 100m waist, a bit of tip and tail rocker for easy turn initiation and blasting through crud, rounded tail makes moguls a lot nicer, two sheets of metal for stability and good edge grip. I'd recommend the 177cm. I think you can demo these at Northstar and that is one of very few places that has some for sale. Paging @Trekchick Hopefully she will notice that and can fill you in about demoing the ski.

A couple of other skis that fit that category are the Blizzard Bonafide, Fischer Motive 95 and ON3P Kartel 98. The best advice is demo, demo, demo.
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Originally Posted by mtcyclist View Post

Welcome to EpicSki. Personally I would go wider since it sounds like you want a one ski quiver. ~100mm is a good width for this type of ski, so 97-103mm waist, camber and at least some tip rocker. If I had to choose only one ski, this is where I would look. My first choice would be the new Nordica Enforcer, 100m waist, a bit of tip and tail rocker for easy turn initiation and blasting through crud, rounded tail makes moguls a lot nicer, two sheets of metal for stability and good edge grip. I'd recommend the 177cm. I think you can demo these at Northstar and that is one of very few places that has some for sale. Paging @Trekchick Hopefully she will notice that and can fill you in about demoing the ski.

A couple of other skis that fit that category are the Blizzard Bonafide, Fischer Motive 95 and ON3P Kartel 98. The best advice is demo, demo, demo.


Hi, You can demo at Northstar and apply the price of demo toward the purchase of "non sale" skis. 

Stop by True North and ask for Tricia.  I'll help you get a demo card set up for some ideas. 

post #4 of 9
Are you bound to having only one pair? Skies these days are made and marketed terrain/purpose specific unlike the old days.

As a technically minded, but light and kind of short skier (5'8"), I personally like having at least two pairs in my quiver. My two pair ski quiver would look like...<70mm combi skis, best suited and easiest on groomers, and <90mm off-piste soft snow oriented skis.

If I'm allowed to have only one pair for all conditions, I would pick something in the 85-90mm range. I read and hear of a lot of 95mm-ish do all skis, but my weight and height have me lean towards a bit narrower skis.

For one ski quiver, I'd pick something like the MX88 or SR88. Probably MX88 because I'm more groomer oriented. The irony is, for my multi ski quiver, I woudn't actually buy the MX88, because I have race skis that are much more dynamic and technical.

One ski quiver decision is a process of priority and compromise as it seems.
post #5 of 9
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As far as a one ski do it all I am more of a 60/40 front groomed which is why I am leaning toward the 90 instead of 100.  I hear the if i was 40/60 I would be better with 100 width skis.  Also, I have been doing okay on my super skinnies in some fluff even though it is very tough.  If I somehow end-up living if a powder town i would definitely buy something wider.  

post #6 of 9

For Tahoe, at your size, get something between 95 - 100mm underfoot that has a back-bone to get through heavier snow.

post #7 of 9
Thread Starter 

Do the wider ski deal better with crappy hard snow?  I am worried they may lack a little bit when there is actually nice good groomed runs and that they would leave a lot left on the table when I want do moguls.

post #8 of 9

Skis in the width range that most of us are suggesting, about 100mm, are generally very good at dealing with crappy conditions and they all carve groomers quite well.  How they behave in bumps is highly dependent on the shape of the tail and the stiffness of the ski.  the Nordica Enforcer is very good in bumps largely due to the shape of the tail and also the fact that it has some tail rocker.  But it has enough beef to it that it doesn't get tossed around in chop and crud.  Are 100mm skis good on ice?  No, but ice is not as common in the western US as it is in the midwest and northeast, so I don't worry about it.  You already have a narrow ski that is probably OK in icy conditions.  The best thing to do is visit True North at Northstar and demo some skis.  You cannot know how they ski until you actually ski them.

post #9 of 9
The prophet 90 or 98 is a damn good choice. Not a very good powder ski, but they will ski well in any condition short of ice. The 179 is probably too short based on your size though.

You're going to need boots stiffer than 90 flex at your size too. Think 110is on the low side and 130 on the high side. Its always best to buy boots that are stiffer than you think you need. If you cant flex your boots you can have someone soften them, bit you can't make a softer boot stiffer in most cases.
Edited by clink83 - 2/21/15 at 9:52pm
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