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How to learn how to ski a new boot

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 

Does anyone have any tips for learning how to ski a new boot?  Last night I went from a 10+ year old Salomon Evolution that was a 90 flex to a new Lange RX130.

 

I am having trouble getting used to the boot.  Is it just as simple as needing more 'seat time" in the boot?  I am pretty sure the culprit is that the new boot responds better to turn initiation than the old boot.  Therefore, I may be 'overskiing" this new boot.  Do I need to break some old habits?

 

Any tips or tricks would be appreciated.

post #2 of 12

I have boots in both 90 and 120 flex.

Same boot and same setup by the same fitter for both pairs.

In cold weather there is not much difference between the two.

If you are feeling something really different the first thing I would do is compare the setup of the two boots.

A small change in cant, ramp angle or forward angle can make a big difference.

If you are fitted much more tightly in the new boots that too would make them much more responsive than the old ones.

IMO, you should ski them a bit and see how you are adapting.

The new boot should really improve your skiing after you get used to them if they have a good setup.

post #3 of 12
I went from 60 to 100, didn't feel a difference. I'm guessing maybe the forward lean or ramp angle is different.
post #4 of 12
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Originally Posted by LionsPhan View Post
 

Does anyone have any tips for learning how to ski a new boot?  Last night I went from a 10+ year old Salomon Evolution that was a 90 flex to a new Lange RX130.

 

I am having trouble getting used to the boot.  Is it just as simple as needing more 'seat time" in the boot?  I am pretty sure the culprit is that the new boot responds better to turn initiation than the old boot.  Therefore, I may be 'overskiing" this new boot.  Do I need to break some old habits?

 

Any tips or tricks would be appreciated.

A few things could be going on.The Salomon Evolution is from the mid 90's and even then it was an old design that Salomon took from Heierling.  What skis are you on? The new boot could be exposing the weakness of your old equipment, so yes you could be "over skiing" them. You are also now in a boot that has a more neutral stance with less ramp and cuff angle along with lateral stance. 

post #5 of 12

The 120 will be a little less forgiving in errors on input (something depending on the level that you could make a big difference).  Additionally the 120 is a newer designed boot, you are likely feeling a more responsive boot side to side which also translates as increased sensitivity.

 

All this said, your skis may not be up to the performance that you and the boots can achieve,  You may be above the level of your ski and I've seen people limited by skis well below their ability, giving the impression of poor technique and even poor skier.  A change to better skis (higher level) resulted in noticeable improvement instantly as the ski did what the skier wanted versus thinking that an error was made and trying to dampen the skiers input.  (Just based on your comment about over skiing I think this is something that should be considered without knowing what skis you are on).

 

Have a very good instructor look at this aspect as it takes an experienced eye to see it as they have to identify the technique is correct and the problem occurs because the skis let go vs a technical error on the skiers part. 

post #6 of 12
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
 

A few things could be going on.The Salomon Evolution is from the mid 90's and even then it was an old design that Salomon took from Heierling.  What skis are you on? The new boot could be exposing the weakness of your old equipment, so yes you could be "over skiing" them. You are also now in a boot that has a more neutral stance with less ramp and cuff angle along with lateral stance. 

My skis are 2014 Atomic Redster GS's in a 174cm length.

post #7 of 12
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
 

A few things could be going on.The Salomon Evolution is from the mid 90's and even then it was an old design that Salomon took from Heierling.  What skis are you on? The new boot could be exposing the weakness of your old equipment, so yes you could be "over skiing" them. You are also now in a boot that has a more neutral stance with less ramp and cuff angle along with lateral stance. 

My skis are 2014 Atomic Redster GS's in a 174cm length.

So you have a race car and you put your old bias ply tires on it, now you put on a proper tire on and the skis are now reacting as they should instead of the performance being masked. 

post #8 of 12
Thread Starter 

That's what I thought was happening.  I was just curious if anyone else had ever gone through this, and what they did to "re-teach" themselves.

post #9 of 12
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Originally Posted by LionsPhan View Post
 

That's what I thought was happening.  I was just curious if anyone else had ever gone through this, and what they did to "re-teach" themselves.

 

After ensuring you're aligned/canted correctly by your bootfitter (you did get a bootfitter for this, right?), it's a matter of developing your technique. Congratulations: you are now ready to learn to become an advanced/expert skier! 

post #10 of 12
Thread Starter 
Yes. I'm working with a boot fitter. It appears out of the box, I am ok with minor adjustments. He wants me to ski them 5 times and then come back in for readjustment
post #11 of 12

If you ski at the level I suspect and the boot setup is OK, you are about to learn what big edge angles are about.

With your old setup and skis I doubt you could get to the edge angle required to initiate a clean carve.

Now you are in equipment that is capable of supporting the edge angles that make GS skis fun.

Throw your COM downhill, stick those things way out there and stand on them.

You will amazed at what happens.

Most of the time.

Get this picture in your head if you like GS skis.

That's the way.

post #12 of 12

How much do you weigh?

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