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post #91 of 98
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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post

Can only speculate without seeing skiing, feet and boots in person.  I speculate the boot is too soft for high performance skiing, the support (footbed arch-support) is too soft for high performance skiing.  Boots are appropriate for intermediate skiing slowly on blue runs.  Skier attempts to compensate by squshing down on the lower two buckles.  Proper stiff boots  (e.g. 130 flex) proper custom footbeds (e.g. firm Superfeet Cork), would provide performance without needing to be over-tightened.  Purely speculation based on my 100 Flex Crossmax Pros and my old race boots. 
The whole " tighten your lower shell buckles so it stiffens your boots" routine is something a lot of people go through at some point.
post #92 of 98
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Originally Posted by mtcyclist View Post
 

What is pathetic and uncalled for?


I would say the use of the word "moron" falls into this category.  However, the post has been removed, thankfully.

post #93 of 98
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Originally Posted by Posaune View Post
 

I'm not a boot expert but I've had lots of problems with cold feet and numb toes, much as you describe.  You mention that you use a medium tension on the power strap.  I did as well but on a hunch I put them on with no tension at all. Not loose, mind you, but just tight enough to not have any slack; no tugging or pulling while putting them on.  My troubles with numb toes vanished and I experienced no change in boot performance.  It may not be your problem, but it's an easy thing to try.


you might try Booster Straps too. they are relatively inexpensive as boot mods go.

post #94 of 98
Thread Starter 

Problem solved - 4th boot fitter nailed it.

 

Last night 5 inches of fresh snow fell causing my son's 7am hockey game (5:45am wake up on a Sunday AM) to be canceled due to the road conditions, so instead we hit the slopes together - got the call 5am.  Gave me a chance to try out the 4th boot fitter's changes to my boots.

 

4th boot fitter adjustments:

* Remolded the shell and liner to my feet after adding padding to the side of my feet including pinkie toes to expand that area of boot

* Placed the foot bed riser between the shell and liner

* Added significant amount (the largest size store carried) of padding/support to my custom footbed under the arch

* Removed my additional heel padding installed by the original boot fitter, it was countering the support from the additional arch support

* Loosened buckles 3 & 4 by 1 'tooth' compared to how I previously had them set

 

With these changes I was able to transfer energy quickly from my feet to ski while still felling my toes throughout the day.  The additional padding under my arch locked my foot into place. 

 

 

post #95 of 98

That is good news all around.

post #96 of 98

good news, thanks for persisting and reporting

post #97 of 98

The thieves obviously took your orthotics. 

post #98 of 98

With a little editing from my previous post I suggsted this;

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Originally Posted by Uncle Louie View Post

 

................. It's pad about 3/16" thick or so and can be cut and applied right to the bed (below your liner).  The boot fit slightly tighter than when it was originally fit after installation of this pad and after 3 days in the boot the fit was perfect. 

 

 

* The days of "super-clamping" the buckles are gone.  Maybe a bit tighter on the top buckles, but if the fit is right, clamping your shell around your foot is in the days of yester-year. 

 

*  I believe these boots can be re-molded several times.  6 is the number I recall.  Both the shell and the liner (if factory liner) are moldable.

 

 

RED FLAG

 

Shim the heal of the boot with flat feet ?  This one's got me. I have flat feet and shimmed the arch somewhat. That, for me, is a performance issue.  I can feel it there, but not to the point of uncomfortable.  Raising the heel should cause the arch to end up flatter against the footbed, and probably uncomfortable. This could be the OP's entire problem,  especially if there was a significant rise in the heal.  This should be evaluated by a REAL boot fitter....not the "guy in the store".

Your 4th fitter did this.

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Originally Posted by ikolbyi View Post
 

 

4th boot fitter adjustments:

* Remolded the shell and liner to my feet after adding padding to the side of my feet including pinkie toes to expand that area of boot

* Placed the foot bed riser between the shell and liner

* Added significant amount (the largest size store carried) of padding/support to my custom footbed under the arch

* Removed my additional heel padding installed by the original boot fitter, it was countering the support from the additional arch support

* Loosened buckles 3 & 4 by 1 'tooth' compared to how I previously had them set

 

You just found the right guy as far as I'm concerned. (though some may question that)

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