My wife and I are very serious about improving our skiing. We are both stuck in this "intermediate rut" that people talk about. We both struggle with our inside leg and how to keep our heels together. Yes, we can handle blues but our legs hurt...especially mine. Every one tells me that I am sitting back and that I need to find proper balance. I am stuck and need a whole week with serious instructors to move to the next level. I am 54 and my wife is 45. So, we are not young...but in very good shape. My wife was a track runner in college and I still do Olympic Triathlons in the summer. So, does anyone know anything about the Mahre training center? All the reviews I have seen tells me it is good, but I would love some opinion before spending big chunk of money. Thanks!!
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I did the Mahre Training camps years ago (in the mid to late 90's) when they were still at Keystone. I did it with a group of four or five friends. We did the 3 day camps which to me was just right. I think the 5 day camp would have overloaded me at that time. We did it one year skipped a year and did it again. It was great! Phil and Steve are great guys, fun to ski with and watch them argue over skiing. If I remember correctly one always focused on ankle movements and the other knees. They would argue over who was correct, thus why you never skied with both in the same camp. I would love to do the camp again if time and $$$ allowed.
Based on your comments of your legs hurting I agree you are sitting back on your skis. Are either of you curling up your toes inside the boots, trying to grip the ground with your toes (this is a very common anxiety/fear reaction when skiing)? If so, don't do that! Curling up your toes inside the boots tightens up your calf and hamstring muscles making skiing much harder, keep your toes long.
Everyones' bodies are different. I'm sure yours and your wife's bodies are very different, thus your centers of balance are going to be different. So if someone tells you to stand this way or that because that is how they stand it doesn't mean that will put you/your wife in your center of balance. Standing on flat ground with your skis on, hop up and down a few times (just small hops, a couple inches) then hold your landing position, if your skis land solid and stay in the landing spot you are centered. If your skis want to slide forward your are sitting back, if the skis slide back you are too forward. This is a very simple way to get you centered on your skis on flat ground. Once you have done that, go to an easy green run and try to do this same hop while on a slow straight run. This will get you centered while sliding. If you are centered and in good balance when you are skiing you should be able to do this little hop at just about anytime on your skis. If you are sitting back on your skis doing this little hop will be impossible if you don't first center yourself. With kids I play the game if they hear me say "ribbit" while skiing they have to hop, this gets them to stand up and center themselves on their skis. I do this hopping exercise with beginner adults quite often. Once they know this simple move I will see them doing a little hop once in a while on their own if they are having trouble turning or stopping.
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While I have not attended one of their camps, I had a unique opportunity to (ever so briefly) work with both brothers. On one evening they came to the ski area where I was coaching to "celebrity coach" a race clinic we were running one weeknight. They were making the rounds to promote their camp and was (about 20 years ago). I was one of four group coaches heading up four groups of eight participants each. Phil and Steve worked separately spending 30 minutes with each group. It was a very quiet evening on a NE night skiing hill that provided a very uniquely intimate setting for this type of event. I didn't have much of an idea regarding what to expect from them other than some vague notion that I didn't think being a top level ski racer was not necessarily a precursor to becoming a good ski instructor. Let me tell you .... both brothers came off as very eloquent, articulate and knowledgeable yet very clear, concise and straight forward as just about any coach or instructor I have ever heard. They did very well to diagnose the most needy issues and offer custom advice and a well-targeted drill or two for each individual. In doing so, they commanded an immediately easy and inclusive rapport with everyone there. They both brought the same level of value in their presentation to the lower level racers as much as they did to the ones that were significantly better. I came away thinking "these guys just aren't top level ski racers, they really are top level coaches/instructors". So, I would say that if your experience is going to include a healthy dose of active participation from the brothers, I am sure it will be worth every penny.