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post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 

I have a pair of Dalbello Kryzmas which are too big - length and width.  They are size 25 and, despite being too big, these boots rip! My current (read new) boot fitter recommends that I pick up a pair of 24's and he will cook the liners for me.  My concern is that the heel and ankles are too loose in the 25's.

 

Is there any difference in the last of a 25 and a 24 mondo, other than the obvious difference in length?

post #2 of 16

The size 24 will be 2mm narrower in the forefoot than the 25.  That's the industry standard.  It will be narrower in the heel area also but I don't know if it will be 2mm narrower.  The Kryzma is a 98mm lasted boot, but the 98mm is based on a size 24 boot so your size 25 is actually 100mm.  Are your current boots actually marked 25 or 25.5.  Half sizes in ski boots don't exist, except for the boxes the boots come in.  If you have a narrow low volume foot, I would recommend you look at some other brands.  Lange makes some low volume boots, Nordica is coming out with one this next season, the Atomic Redster Pro 90W is another as are the Head Raptor 110W and 90W.  If you like the three piece design, Full Tilt is a narrower lower volume boot than the Dalbello and uses Intuition liners.  

 

If you heel is really loose in your current boot, going down one size is unlikely to correct that.  A good fitter can add some padding to the outside of the liner before cooking it, but that is not the best way to fix the problem.  The best was is to just find a boot with the right size heel pocket.

post #3 of 16
Thread Starter 

@mtcyclist Thanks.  My former boot fitter added a whole load of padding - heels, instep (still there); shims  heel lifts (now in the trash) and none of it bought me more than  a few days.  Surprisingly, the length is the least of my problems.  It's the heel and ankle issue.  I really can't abide movement in the heel or ankle.  If the heel is the same in the 24 as the 25, a smaller size won't help me.

post #4 of 16

Don't waste your money.  I'd make a trip to the Tahoe area and go see Whiteroom or Sierra Jim.  My guess is you have limited options for boots in San Diego.

post #5 of 16
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I am planning to move slowly at this point.  I hope to demo some race boots in Mammoth in April.  Of course, they may not have anything left at this point in the season.  I do want to talk to them about zip fit liners also.  I have been skiing for 43 years and I am somewhat accustomed to boots that are too loose.  I do feel that with all the new technology, there must be a solution out there for me.  Tahoe is definitely a possibility, but my problem is getting back there for the tweaks that -with my feet -are inevitable.

post #6 of 16

If the boot is too big and you said it is, a Zipfit liner won't fix that.  It might be good in a new, right sized shell, but it won't fix your current boot.

post #7 of 16
Thread Starter 

Absolutely, I was speaking of purchasing a smaller boot.  I am hoping that zip fits might solve my perennially sloppy heel and ankle issues - it's not just a narrow forefoot issue.  Truthfully, I really love the Kryzma.  The forefoot isn't a big issue.  It's the heel and ankle that are driving my crazy.  Even too big, that boot rips.  If I could make that boot work in a smaller size, I would be thrilled. I am not totally adverse to a race boot, but I want to explore options before purchasing a new boot.  

post #8 of 16

What new technology do you need to fix boots that are too large other than buying the correct size?  Mtcyclist is correct.  Size 24 will be smaller in every dimension.  Zipfits will not fix a shell that is too large and are not easily used in Kryzmas anyway.

 

Lou

post #9 of 16
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@Lou Rosenfeld  I'm sorry if i have been unclear.  I am trying to determine if my new boot fitter is correct or not.  He recommend buying the same boot one size down.  However, my biggest issue is in the heel and ankle area.  If the last is the same in those areas - one size smaller won't help.  Do I understand you and @mtcyclist correctly?  Will the heel and ankle area fit more snugly one size down in the Kryzmas? 

post #10 of 16
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Originally Posted by Lou Rosenfeld View Post
 

What new technology do you need to fix boots that are too large other than buying the correct size?  Mtcyclist is correct.  Size 24 will be smaller in every dimension.  Zipfits will not fix a shell that is too large and are not easily used in Kryzmas anyway.

 

Lou

 

 

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Originally Posted by mustski View Post
 

@Lou Rosenfeld  I'm sorry if i have been unclear.  I am trying to determine if my new boot fitter is correct or not.  He recommend buying the same boot one size down.  However, my biggest issue is in the heel and ankle area.  If the last is the same in those areas - one size smaller won't help.  Do I understand you and @mtcyclist correctly?  Will the heel and ankle area fit more snugly one size down in the Kryzmas? 

 

 

The bold part where I quoted Lou should answer your main question.  Will the difference be enough only you can decide.

post #11 of 16
Thread Starter 

Good enough.  Thank you all.

post #12 of 16

FWIW heel lift has always been an issue for me--super skinny ankles (and calves). My current boots are a comfort fit as far as shell fitting goes--on the larger end of OK. When I replaced the packed out liners with Intuition Power Wraps the heel lift vanished. BTW I don't think it's just the size and shape of the heel pocket, although that is certainly important. If the boot is too big across the instep the foot can slide forward so that the heel is part way out of the pocket. I have no plans to replace my boots any time soon but when I do I will hope that a boot that comes with PW's as the stock liner will fit my foot.

post #13 of 16
As somoneone with skinny ankles and feet, I would stay well away from an cabrio boot. Once you loose volume in the ankle/instep area its much harder to adjust/add volume than it is with an overlap boot. Food for thought.
The Full Tilt(classic) line is a narrower boot overall if you are worried about fit and need a 3 piece boot.
post #14 of 16
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Originally Posted by clink83 View Post

As somoneone with skinny ankles and feet, I would stay well away from an cabrio boot. Once you loose volume in the ankle/instep area its much harder to adjust/add volume than it is with an overlap boot. Food for thought.
The Full Tilt(classic) line is a narrower boot overall if you are worried about fit and need a 3 piece boot.


I like the Kryzma and 2 different boot fitters only  agreed on 1 thing - it's the right shape for my foot.  I have a "normal" instep.  I looked at the full tilt boots and it was listed as a 99 last while the Kryzma is 98.  I used to ski Tecnicas and liked them very much but experienced similar issues with the heel and ankle.  What I like about the Kryzma is how well it pulls my heel back into the pocket.  Like I said, even too big, this boot rips. 

post #15 of 16

As someone who owns both a Dalbello Krypton Cross ID and a Full Tilt Classic I can tell you that regardless of stated last size, the Full Tilts are narrower.

post #16 of 16
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mtcyclist View Post
 

As someone who owns both a Dalbello Krypton Cross ID and a Full Tilt Classic I can tell you that regardless of stated last size, the Full Tilts are narrower.


My son loves his Cross boots.  Good to know that the Full Tilts are narrower.  Thanks.  

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