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Do Volkl RTM 84s exist without the binding system?

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Hi all,

 

Sorry if this is a dupe, couldn't find a discussion of this. I had a really positive experience demoing the Volkl RTM 84 last month in UT, even though snowfall was rather lame. The all mountain rocker concept is working for me, but I'd really rather prefer to have bindings I like installed rather than the system which comes with the RTM. I can't find this ski for sale without it - does such a thing not exist?

 

If it doesn't exist, what are good examples of skis that behave similarly to the RTM that come without a system? Everywhere I look they are all set up that way...

 

Thanks!

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Nope and nope.
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Seriously? No one makes a good all mountain ski without a system?!
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Seriously? No one makes a good all mountain ski without a system?!

There are many, just nothing like this year's RTM 84 (essentially flat under foot) though I hear the 15-16 Kendo losses it's camber. If true, there you go. I bit wider, but only 6mm. What was wrong with the RTM system binding? Honestly, I much prefer a slightly longer Rev 85 pro... actually, most of the 85-90 skis work better IMHO, though I'm very much of the 'if you demo something and like it, buy it' school of thought. Again, was there a particular issue with the system binding?
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Hey Mark, the 2016 Kendo keeps its camber but adds tail rocker. Should be a beautiful improvement if you're into tail rocker……which I must admit I am. 

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Seriously? No one makes a good all mountain ski without a system?!

 

 

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Originally Posted by CodeWarrior1241 View Post

Seriously? No one makes a good all mountain ski without a system?!

There are many, just nothing like this year's RTM 84 (essentially flat under foot) though I hear the 15-16 Kendo losses it's camber. If true, there you go. I bit wider, but only 6mm. What was wrong with the RTM system binding? Honestly, I much prefer a slightly longer Rev 85 pro... actually, most of the 85-90 skis work better IMHO, though I'm very much of the 'if you demo something and like it, buy it' school of thought. Again, was there a particular issue with the system binding?

 

As Marko says, there are many skis in that width range and a good amount are available "flat" but none have the zero camber that you liked from skiing the RTM (The Kendo WILL have camber next season). So, whats more important to you? the feel of the ski or the ability to install your own binding on it? The system on the RTM, isn't the worst one out there and IMHO shouldn't stop you from buying that ski if you liked it as much as you say you did. If the binding is more important, the Head Rev85, K2 Rictor 82, Dynastar PowerTrack 84, Kastle LX82 & MX83 and the upcoming Head Monster 83 are all skis that are in that category that you can put your own bindings on. 

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