Originally Posted by snofun3
And is color an issue too? Seems like people spending too much time and effort watching what others drive / wear. Maybe you should update yourself on the quality issues as well.
Lots of Ferrari's and Bentley's down here (3 new Roller's out last night on the way to the Valentine's cruise too). When others have issues regarding what others drive, it smacks of socialism - not a fan. When someone's been successful enough to be able to afford what they want, they should have to be concerned what the neighbors think?
So Audi's are OK, but their cousins, Bentley's aren't. Is there some kind of demarcation on what's socially acceptable there? Love to see that. Just FYI, I'd bend over backwards for a 458 Italia, and wouldn't give a rat's ass what anyone else thought. Oh, and I have a full Arcteryx suite. Guess that says it all, right.
Since this is directed at me, I'll answer, but it's a more appropriate discussion for Politics & Hot Topics.
I understand your liking of high quality goods. I'm getting ready to buy a pair of Kästles myself. I love things that work well. If I could afford it, I might be persuaded to buy a Porsche (more than a Ferrari or Bentley), but I'd have to give it real thought.
On the other hand, the don't-give-a-f*ck attitude of people who extract the most benefit from the tax code is a problem. Success is a happy outcome, and successful people talk about working hard, and therefore deserving more. "Working hard" is nice, but really doesn't mean much. Lots of people work hard. Lots of people suffer while working hard, and lots of people don't get breaks. They don't get nice things. And corporations take advantage of our "socialist" (ha) system so they don't have to pay their workers (as you may have heard, McDonald's counsels its employees on how to get food stamps).
Luck (including genetic good fortune) plays a bigger role in success. That's pretty clear. I don't begrudge that kind of luck, not at all. I've had great luck in many ways. But one should be grateful for luck, not rub it in people's faces. The lucky aren't more deserving. They're just luckier.
It's perfectly fine that rich people buy expensive things. But when they complain about one of the lowest tax rates since income, dividend, and capital gains taxes were invented, I have little sympathy. People with money (I'm not super poor, by the way) need to live in a world with people who aren't, and it's best to be sensitive. The French Revolution (which, heaven forfend) proved that arrogant dismissal of the plight of others leads to bad consequences.
None of my friends are among the über rich, and they're all great people. I wouldn't want to lose them to socio-economic discomfort just for a fancy ride. Some of my friends (good citizens and excellent friends) would have trouble buying a used Subaru, and they're hard-working people. Good things are great to have, but good friends are more valuable.
Just sayin', YMMV, and all that -- and I'm done discussing this issue here. Should you like to PM me, I'd be happy to discuss it further, but no one convinces anybody by argument, especially these days.