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post #1 of 15
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Try being accused of being one in China, and get a proper beat down by ski patrol and other employees

This is probably the hottest skiing video in China right now, original and copies are being taken down left and right by unknown authority. Happened at WanLong ski resort in China. Ski patrol and other employees accused someone (red with gray helmet on left, I think) of being an outside ski instructor, who claims is teaching his friend.

It went downhill quickly from there. Apparently not the first time resort employees gang beating accused outside instructors either.

This is the very same resort applying for 2022 winter Olympic by the way.
post #2 of 15

I have no idea what he was saying but the guy getting the beat down was yelling at everyone else for quite awhile so? Obviously he was being a dick and I can't see how that kind of thing wouldn't happen anywhere here.

 

Imagine an instructor getting accused of teaching somewhere and then berating ski patrol and any other officials for that long. Obviously at some point they have to end it right? I really do not see how this sets China apart from anywhere else. Anyone remember the video of Taos patrollers tackling a snowboarder a bunch of years ago? 

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Originally Posted by iceage View Post

I have no idea what he was saying but the guy getting the beat down was yelling at everyone else for quite awhile so? Obviously he was being a dick and I can't see how that kind of thing wouldn't happen anywhere here.

They were all yelling, it's not one sided.

Oh and don't think the ski patrols in video are anything like the ones you see at local hills. Skiing is relatively new in China, there's no standard certification/organization, and other videos have shown many of the employees to be quite thuggish.
Edited by jzmtl - 2/11/15 at 11:13pm
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Originally Posted by iceage View Post
 

I have no idea what he was saying but the guy getting the beat down was yelling at everyone else for quite awhile so? Obviously he was being a dick and I can't see how that kind of thing wouldn't happen anywhere here.

 

Imagine an instructor getting accused of teaching somewhere and then berating ski patrol and any other officials for that long. Obviously at some point they have to end it right? I really do not see how this sets China apart from anywhere else. Anyone remember the video of Taos patrollers tackling a snowboarder a bunch of years ago? 

 

Really? Don't you think that if it happened in North America the guy swinging the ski would be facing an assault charge?

post #5 of 15
I think the comrades in the red helmets were mostly at fault.
post #6 of 15

I think the dude in blue that buzzed them at 0.38 is lucky the patrollers didn't give chase to deliver a smack down as well.........

post #7 of 15
It's like the old Kung Fu Theatre midnight movies.

See, how it works in China is you go to a rival ski school and challenge them. If you win, you get to take over the ski school...
post #8 of 15
The dude in the all red outfit and green helmet has letters on the back of his jacket and is yelling at someone else. So, not sure HE is the interloper. And no hitting until the guy in the jacket arrives late from the left. You could convince me this had nothing to do with instructing, but maybe with careless skiing just as easily.
post #9 of 15

As much as the ski resorts want to protect their instruction interests, I'm pretty sure if this happened in the US, the most of the instructors/patrollers involved would probably be canned.  Ski resorts also want to protect their image, and they don't want to be known as the resort with the patrol that beats people up.

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Originally Posted by jzmtl View Post

Try being accused of being one in China, and get a proper beat down by ski patrol and other employees

This is probably the hottest skiing video in China right now, original and copies are being taken down left and right by unknown authority. Happened at WanLong ski resort in China. Ski patrol and other employees accused someone (red with gray helmet on left, I think) of being an outside ski instructor, who claims is teaching his friend.

 

post #11 of 15

I saw the head ski patrol get baited in to a fist fight with a drunken teen right in front of the lodge once.  It was one of the craziest things I ever saw at a ski resort ever.  Rather than calling the cops or even back up from other patrols or employees he just accepted the challenge and they duked it out in front of the chalet until someone else called the cops and they arrived to break it up.  Went on for like ten minutes but seemed like forever..  The patrol leader didn't get fired over it either..

post #12 of 15

it seemed to just be a lively discussion till red-jacket with whiter helmet showed up.  That guy basically "leroy jenkins"-ed the encounter and got the rumble started.

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it seemed to just be a lively discussion till red-jacket with whiter helmet showed up.  That guy basically "leroy jenkins"-ed the encounter and got the rumble started.


Looks like the guy in the red was intimidating enough that they waited for thier "enforcer" to arrive before laying a beating on him.

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Originally Posted by iceage View Post
 

I have no idea what he was saying but the guy getting the beat down was yelling at everyone else for quite awhile so? Obviously he was being a dick and I can't see how that kind of thing wouldn't happen anywhere here.

 

Imagine an instructor getting accused of teaching somewhere and then berating ski patrol and any other officials for that long. Obviously at some point they have to end it right? I really do not see how this sets China apart from anywhere else. Anyone remember the video of Taos patrollers tackling a snowboarder a bunch of years ago? 


I couldn't hear all of it and my chinese isn't great, but he was basically trying to convince them that they aren't a payment relationship and I'm not taking money, but we are just friends, and friends teaching friends what's wrong with that. (appealing to the concept, rather then reinforcing evidence on his specific situation). 

 

And I think the other folks are believing that he isn't getting paid as much as one believes a pothead arguing about the medicinal benefits of pot; or a teenager with 200gigs of music on his ipod trying to argue that bittorrent is good for legal downloads and distributing indie music. 

 

The patrol dude jumps ahead with the accusation and says loaded questions like "So how many lessons have you taught"; so both a liar or a truthteller can do nothing but double down and state his same explanation louder and angrier of "friends can't teach friends, why not?" since that basic premise of his explanation doesn't seem to be getting heard.  That's why it sounds like he's replying with anger.

 

I have no idea what's going on with Enforcer dude.


Edited by raytseng - 2/12/15 at 6:48pm
post #15 of 15
Absolutely crazy!! I am just glad I don't need to be assited by the ski patrol in a real emergency; they would probably leave you as food for the Bears:!
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