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So, after reading much on this and other forums, and talking to the Blizzard rep at the ski show, I bought a pair of Brahmas, 180 length. I'm 5' -8", and 200lbs, expert skier, level 2 instructor.  I just got back from a trip to taos, conditions were thin snow, hard pack groomers and bumps, crud in the trees. I thought these would be the perfect ski. I struggled all week. Did I get the wrong ski, or just too long? Should I have gotten 173's? Any thoughts?

post #2 of 12
Welcome to EpicSki. What specifically gave you trouble?
post #3 of 12

It might be helpful, in terms of some of weighing in, to give us a bit more information. 

 

What have you been skiing on for skis, including the length? Where do you ski and teach. 

 

When you say "struggling", a few more details might help. For example, on the hardback groomers, what wasn't working or feeling right?  And, kind of hand in hand with that, how are they set up, in terms of the tune? Base and side bevels? 

 

I'm about your size and I ski the Brahma in a 187cm. I don't think the length should be an issue. 

 

Should be a few thoughts to follow….

post #4 of 12
Thread Starter 

I ski in ontario and quebec most of the time, and a week or two out west. I have been skiing on some elan magfire 82xti for my trips out west. they are 168's, and feel a bit short, but are fun skis for the most part.

I didnt have the skis prepped in any way, just as they came from the factory .I assumed they would be tuned the way they were meant to be.

On long flat runs to the lift they were great. Lay them over on edge and let them carve natural arcs they were stable as a rock. But in the trees or the bumps I had a hard time turning them. I couldnt pivot  easily. I'm not sure where the bindings are mounted. I got them at skiessentiials, and again, I assumed they would mount them correctly

post #5 of 12

Hmmm you seem to be in a similar situation as I was. I always rode stuff ~165 then went up to a 180 bushwacker (brahma without the metal) and suffered similarly in the trees and bumps. I would say keep going with them as I grew accustomed to the 180 length over time. Look at it as a challenge and anticipate your line a little earlier than you're used to. Just my 2 cents anyhow.

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I was thinking that as well, as my eastern skis are usually 72 -74 underfoot and 15m radius. It may just take some getting used to. But   I had such a hard time with them and it wasnt getting any easier as the week went on! 

post #7 of 12
Okay, amateur stupid enough to make a technique comment to an instructor here. The newest wider skis like the Brahma are very stiff torsionally. This means that if they're even a little bit on edge, they act like they're on edge. No fudge factor. And because they're wider your foot has to move through a bigger arc to get them flat than it does with your narrow skis. (This is the same reason the narrow skis are quicker to get ON edge, too, of course. But people tend to forget that flattening a wide ski is just as slow as edging it.)

In short, when in bumps and trees, make a very conscious effort to keep feet and ankles loose. Don't clench. Lift your toes. Allow the skis go really flat with relationship to the immediate contours of the run (e.g. side of a bump) to get easier pivoting. I'm sure there are drills to help with these "soft feet" skills. You probably know them already!
post #8 of 12
FWIW, I'm 5'11" 195-200lbs, I ski the Kendo in 177cm. I'm thinking you got the ski to long.

See if you can demo a pair of shorter ones from a local shop.
post #9 of 12

I'm 5'9" and 190 on a good day and have no problems with the Brahma in 180. Last year I was on the Blizzard Mag 8.5 in a 174 and these don't feel much longer due to the additional rocker. These feel way shorter than my MX78's in a 176, again due to the rocker.

 

My initial factory tune was great, but as has been discussed in these forums, you might want to check the edge angles as the factory tunes are not consistent.

post #10 of 12
I feel you op going from my 165 k2 chargers to the 180 bushwhackers feels like driving a boat vs a formula 1 race car. The bushwhackers and I'm guessing Brahmas are such a joy in the pow though
post #11 of 12
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Originally Posted by Max Capacity View Post

FWIW, I'm 5'11" 195-200lbs, I ski the Kendo in 177cm. I'm thinking you got the ski to long.

See if you can demo a pair of shorter ones from a local shop.

The 177 Kendo and 180 Brahma, because of the contact length and rise difference ski as if they are the same length. Now, the 180 is right for his weight but maybe the 173 would have been better for his height (and leverage). It seems the only place that he is feeling the ski is too much is in tight spaces like trees so maybe the 173 could have been a better choice for those situations but the 180 is still not a bad choice. He just has to "own" them. 

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Originally Posted by qcanoe View Post

Okay, amateur stupid enough to make a technique comment to an instructor here. The newest wider skis like the Brahma are very stiff torsionally. This means that if they're even a little bit on edge, they act like they're on edge. No fudge factor. And because they're wider your foot has to move through a bigger arc to get them flat than it does with your narrow skis. (This is the same reason the narrow skis are quicker to get ON edge, too, of course. But people tend to forget that flattening a wide ski is just as slow as edging it.)

In short, when in bumps and trees, make a very conscious effort to keep feet and ankles loose. Don't clench. Lift your toes. Allow the skis go really flat with relationship to the immediate contours of the run (e.g. side of a bump) to get easier pivoting. I'm sure there are drills to help with these "soft feet" skills. You probably know them already!

The lifting the toes tip really helped me as well.  I got the tip from a Level 1 Instructor pal of mine earlier this year.  I was skiing 180 Bushwackers and recently switched to 180 Brahmas.  Now I'm 6'2" and around 190 so I think the 180 is the right size but I was also worried about skiing the Brahma in tight trees and moguls.  Lifting the toes helped me get more centered on the skis and also helped me not to crouch too low (as a life long hockey player this is a hard habit to break) which helped me be more relaxed and not huched over and tight when skiing trees and bumps.

 

The Brahma is definitely a bit more work than the Bushwacker but once you get the hang of how to ski it I think you'll fine it quite nimble.

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