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Nose Bleeds

post #1 of 16
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My nose bleeds when I blow it while at altitude. Its not profuse just somewhat on a handkerchief or kleenex. This happens every year when I go skiing. Does have a suggestion(s) on what can be done to improve the condition. Its not so strong that it hampers the skiing in any way - more bothersome than anything.
post #2 of 16
So does mine, but it happened a lot less since I stopped picking it with my ski pole.

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post #4 of 16
In my defense: I was young, I needed the money. The photographer said they would be 'artistic'. She promised she would never release them. She said she could make me a star...

Where did you get my photo from?

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post #6 of 16
Sugar, were you the one who broke in to my photographers recently? Have you been stalking me?

I just want to make a point that, while it may look like I'm wearing a dress, that is actually a proper kilt. (not one of those Scottish things). I haven't worn a dress in years.

Oops, too much information.

post #7 of 16
Humidifier in the hotel room. It happens to me once in a while. I always blamed it on very dry air.

post #8 of 16
if you have any petro jelly, coat the insides of your nose with it. seriously. you won't get those air hanky nosebleeds any more.
post #9 of 16
Back to the serious stuff, I had quite a few problems on my last trip to Canada with nose bleeds - would not stop for an hour - yuk! Anyway, the doctor at Silver Star said the problem is when us coastal dwellers head inland to the dry air (with altitude). Our nostrils are used to drawing in moist air. I always got them in the morning when I got out of bed after a hot shower and ended up missing two mornings of skiing. I think I got it bad because I am not used to sleeping in such warm hotel rooms, everything is kept so hot inside over there compared to here, making the air drier.

So the solution suggested by the doc was
- as gonzostrike suggests, use petro jelly up the nostrils from when you arrive. Stops them drying out and causing the bleeding. I ended up doing this morning and night.

- avoid hot drinks

- avoid alcohol

The last two are necessary if you miss the first one. Once I got my first nose bleed the alcohol and hot drinks had to go. I only avoided the hot drinks in the morning, got to have some caffeine fix each day. I won't be going skiing anywhere in Canada or the US without my petro jelly. Then I won't have to miss out on the finer points of travel, coffee, wine.............

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ January 24, 2002 04:22 PM: Message edited 1 time, by twoKiwis ]</font>
post #10 of 16
The dry air in rooms is a big factor, and air conditioning really dries the air. You can also try leaving a bowl of water near the A/C or any other heat source in the room overnight. This will help keep the moisture levels up a bit.
I would normally drink 1-2 pints of water before going to bed at night to keep my body hydrated, (it also helps reduce hangovers if you've been drinking, not that I would ever touch the stuff!)

post #11 of 16
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by twoKiwis:

- avoid alcohol


What? I don't think so. [img]tongue.gif[/img]
post #12 of 16
Yes, I'd agree, avoid alcohol...

Avoid alcohol on your ski bases. It can strip off the wax.

Avoid alcohol in bottles marked "Lite"...

Avoid beer with less than 5% alcohol...

Avoid shots with less than 60% alcohol...

Avoid ugly women who have drunk too much alcohol...

Avoid young girls who have drunk too much alcohol... (unless you know a good lawyer)

Avoid alcohol on your clothing...

The second best way to avoid having alcohol in front of you is to drink it....

The best way is to give it to me to drink, then you avoid it all together, unless, ladies, you taste it on my lips

post #13 of 16
Great advice everyone. I have a little bit of advice from my own. At altitude the hemoglobin in your red bloodcells can't bind as much oxygen as at sealevel. So your body starts to adapt and produces more red bloodcells (Same thing happens when you take EPO [img]smile.gif[/img]). Your blood get's thicker and your bloodpressure goes up. Combine this with dry air and you get nosebleeds. So drink a lot of water (thin the blood) and fill up on iron (main component of hemoglobin). My weapon of choice is Applesiroup (I don't like pills). It contains masses of iron and tastes good on bread. While this is not entirely scientific, drinking water and eating Applesiroup never hurt anybody. [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #14 of 16
low iron definitely contributed to my problem, it is always low. My all time record was a ferrin count of 2 and it is supposed to be 28, doctor could not understand how I could keep going to the gym and skiing. Thats probably why I could not get the nosebleeds to stop, no clotting ability

I've never heard of Applesirop down under. I don't like taking iron pills, might try a few health food shops to see if they have heard of it. I use my low iron count as an excuse to eat licorice - yum! I know I am getting low on iron when I get nose bleeds at home which is coastal and sea level.

Its not a nice topic but it nearly spoilt my last Canadian holiday. And I had to stop sampling the Okanagan wines whilst travelling in the area. But if the choice is between drinking alcohol or not skiing there is no choice.
post #15 of 16
If you're in Canada, try to get a prescription for Secaris (my ENT colleagues swear by it). I'm not sure if this formulation or an equivalentis available in the US or elsewhere.

An over-the-counter alternative that works well is plain old Polysporin ointment dabbed on the inside of your nostrils (along the bony part) a couple or a few times per day.

Aside from that, I would recommend plenty of time in the hottub-- the steam will do wonders for your nose!

TwoKiwis-- I'm glad you got good advice up at Silver Star. Me, I'm a hard working ER doc who pulls the odd weekend shift up at the Star. No alchohol though? I think I'd ask for a second opinion!

post #16 of 16
now that I think about it, I think it was at Big White where I visited the doc. Silver Star was the first ski area we visited then went onto Big White. Maybe the doc thought I looked like a slush and advised no alcohol. By the time we got to Red Mountain I thought my nose was okay. Had two glasses of wine one night, next morning I had a major bleed and had to miss out on half a days skiing. So for me, the alcohol definitely coincided with my problem. I am not a regular drinker, maybe if I did it more often my body would be used to. I guess it must raise my blood pressure or thin the blood down more. Next time I come I'll get in training early and start drinking alcohol more regularly.
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