I'd like to run some ideas past you guys before I go back to my bootfitter(s)* for the fourth time for work on my much-beloved 2.5-season-old Lange RS 120 SCs, mondo 24.5. They used to have a wonderfully snug performance fit, but over the past 40 or so ski days they've gotten pretty roomy. Recent tweaks and added padding have helped but don't come near to restoring the original fit.
As measured against a wall to the best of my ability, my right foot is 243mm long, and my left is 245mm long (but I'm suspicious because my right foot always fits tighter in shoes & boots ). Width seemed harder to measure for some reason, but I think they're both 94mm wide (widest part of the forefoot at the metatarsal heads). I can post pics if you'd like. The boot has a 97mm last, is stamped 24.5 on the outside, and the inside of the shell's tongue says 240-255mm. I'm not going to do a shell fit because these liners were very hard to pull and a real pisser to get back in by myself before the recent padding was added, and even the bootfitters ask for help when putting them in. If it helps, the bootfitter recently told me that there's so little extra room that I wouldn't get more than five degrees of warmth out of an after-market liner (so I ended up buying boot heaters).
Oddball factor: Last January I started to resolve some health issues which caused edema in my lower legs (and elsewhere, but you don't care about that). I lost 15-20 pounds between February and November (I'm 5'3" and went from 165-170 to 150), and there's less edema in my legs. At the bootfitter's advice I've always worn compression socks with these boots from the moment I get out of bed on a ski day (I change into thin Smartwools for skiing because they're more comfortable).
I had to wear nylons for the first several days in the boots, after which there was enough space for an ultra-light wool blend sock. Things stayed the same until I started to notice extra room and movement late last March when I had about 25 days on the boots. That's also when I changed my 153cm Salomon Geishas for 164s and learned how to turn with a little speed in heavy & variable snow, which caused some sliding back and forth and twisting, especially the left boot. At the start of this season they were really roomy all over, and by the time I made it back to the bootfitter in November I was up to the last rungs of the top two buckles just trying to maintain some stability. Now the right boot's fit is improved but after 4-5 ski days the added material feels like it's getting loose, and the left foot still has movement and just doesn't have as much contact as I'm used to. The total number of days on these boots is about 40,
- Are my boots too big? (I doubt it, but what do I know?)
- Is the roominess caused by weight/water weight loss, or have the liners really packed out that quickly? (On the one hand, "people" say they get more like 100 days on stock liners and a lot of my ski days were really 2-4 hours. On the other hand, my calf and ankle are certainly smaller, but could my foot have changed that much? I wouldn't have thought 15-20 pounds would do that, but I figure someone here must have dealt with a customer who gained or lost weight.)
- Can padding restore the all-over pressure I loved so much? (I know they'll keep tweaking things, but I'm starting to doubt that this is really going to work, and get kinda bored standing around the shop waiting to get my boots back.)
- Can I get the original fit back by remolding these liners, even though they were originally molded for a bigger version of me?
- If I were to get after market liners, which one(s) would you recommend? Is there an Intuition that would restore me to my happy place, or do I need Zipfits? ($$$$!!!!)
By the way, I know I'm fortunate to be far from miserable skiing in these boots; I mean, even cranking the buckles down doesn't hurt so long as I do it carefully. Heck, it's probably good for me to get lots of practice getting my feet back under me when the bouncing around makes me nervous and I stiffen up.
* My original bootfitter's equally competent son works with me if Dad isn't available; they record everything electronically so each knows what the other has done.