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post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 

Hello,

 

I'm looking for some advice for some new Frontside skis.  I've been demoing a lot of skis lately but haven't really settled on anything yet and I'm having a hard time narrowing down the list with all of the choices.

 

I'm somewhere around a level 7 skier and looking for something that will help me improve.  I live near  Vail, CO and I spend most of my time on groomers.  I don't really ever venture off-piste, but I'd like something that can handle fresh snow up to around 6" or so.  I'll buy a wider ski at some point for deeper snow.

 

I'm 5'9" and 195 lbs.  I probably ski around 25 days a season or so.

 

I currently have a pair of 2011 Blizzard Magnum 8.1 (172cm) and a pair of 2013 Volkl Kendos (170cm).  I've mostly been skiing the Kendos lately.

 

What width underfoot should I be looking for?  I'm thinking something in the 80-90 range.

 

What length would be appropriate for my height and weight?  I'm thinking something in the 175-180 range.

 

Should I be looking at more of a Frontside carver or an All-Mountain ski?

 

Thanks for your help!

 

Alan

post #2 of 11

Um....what's the problem with the Kendos?  They are wide enough for the 6" you talk about, plus have a reputation as a strong carver for frontside/groomers.  For even more frontside/hard snow, you've got the Blizzards.  

From your subject line, I'd bet you'd get some recommendations for both of these skis.  So...what do you want that they do not do?  

 :dunno

post #3 of 11
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the reply!

 

I'm thinking the Kendos are a little too stiff, and with the early rise they might be a little short for me at 170cm.

post #4 of 11

You say you demoed a lot of skis of late, what did you like and what didn't you like? 

post #5 of 11
Thread Starter 

Here's a list of skis I've been on recently with my thoughts on each.

 

Blizzard X-Power 810 Ti IQ 174  -  OK, but seemed a little heavy.

Blizzard Brahma 173 - Seemed a little stiff, didn't really ever click with them, also probably should have been on the 180

Blizzard Bonafide 180 (2016) - Just felt like too much ski for me.  Didn't feel very confident on them.

 

K2 AMP Rictor 82 XTI - Liked these OK.

K2 AMP Rictor 90 XTI - Liked these, maybe even a little more than the 82.

K2 iKonic 85 (2016) - Liked these but would have to wait until next season for them.

K2 Pinnacle 95 (2016) - Definitely too much ski for me.  Felt big and heavy.

 

Nordica NRGY 90 177 - Liked these a lot.

Nordica NRGY 100 185 - Wish I could have tried these in the 177 length.  185 just felt too long.

 

Rossignol Experience 88 172 - These seemed a little too turny, but might need to revisit.  First skis I demoed this season.

Rossignol Sin 7 180 - Skied these with 6" of fresh and had a blast on them.  Gave me a lot of confidence in the crud.

Rossignol Soul 7 180 - Skied these the same day as the Sin 7's.  I felt more confident on the narrower Sin 7.

 

Salomon X-Drive 8.0 FS 175 (2016) - I liked these a lot.  Same as 2015 I think.

Salomon Q-90 177 (2016) - Probably my favorites so far, but I'm wondering if it is just because they are so soft.  Very lightweight.

Salomon Rocker2 100 (2016) - Didn't care for these.  They didn't feel very stable.  Not very confidence inspiring.

 

Völkl V-Werks RTM 176 - Too stiff.   Too much ski for me.

Volkl RTM 84 176 (2016) - Also seemed too stuff.  Reminded me of the Blizzard 810 Ti.

 

Haven't tried these yet, but thinking I should put them on the list:

 

Head Rev 85

Kastle MX 88

 

I skied the 2016 skis at Copper last week.  I'd like to buy a pair this season, so most of those are out, but maybe my comments will be of some use.

 

I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed at this point and I don't really trust my own judgement.  I'd like to end up with a two ski quiver, so I'm trying to decide on the narrower front-side everyday ski and then maybe buy something wider next season.

 

The Salomon Q-90 felt very light and comfortable, but I'm wondering if it would be too soft for a mostly groomer ski.  I'd like to narrow the list back down to two or three options and go back for another round of demos.

 

Thanks for your help!

 

Alan

post #6 of 11

For your stated purpose both of your skis will work just fine, and you're also looking for a third ski in the 80-90 range, so you must be looking for some other characteristic. Probably a softer ski is what I'm reading. The NRGY 90 is soft in flex and soft-snow biased. You said you want to end up with a 2-ski quiver, which ski is not working out for you and will you be ditching?

post #7 of 11
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Originally Posted by Avalanchis View Post
 

Here's a list of skis I've been on recently with my thoughts on each.

 

Blizzard X-Power 810 Ti IQ 174  -  OK, but seemed a little heavy.

Blizzard Brahma 173 - Seemed a little stiff, didn't really ever click with them, also probably should have been on the 180

Blizzard Bonafide 180 (2016) - Just felt like too much ski for me.  Didn't feel very confident on them.

 

K2 AMP Rictor 82 XTI - Liked these OK.

K2 AMP Rictor 90 XTI - Liked these, maybe even a little more than the 82.

K2 iKonic 85 (2016) - Liked these but would have to wait until next season for them.

K2 Pinnacle 95 (2016) - Definitely too much ski for me.  Felt big and heavy.

 

Nordica NRGY 90 177 - Liked these a lot.

Nordica NRGY 100 185 - Wish I could have tried these in the 177 length.  185 just felt too long.

 

Rossignol Experience 88 172 - These seemed a little too turny, but might need to revisit.  First skis I demoed this season.

Rossignol Sin 7 180 - Skied these with 6" of fresh and had a blast on them.  Gave me a lot of confidence in the crud.

Rossignol Soul 7 180 - Skied these the same day as the Sin 7's.  I felt more confident on the narrower Sin 7.

 

Salomon X-Drive 8.0 FS 175 (2016) - I liked these a lot.  Same as 2015 I think.

Salomon Q-90 177 (2016) - Probably my favorites so far, but I'm wondering if it is just because they are so soft.  Very lightweight.

Salomon Rocker2 100 (2016) - Didn't care for these.  They didn't feel very stable.  Not very confidence inspiring.

 

Völkl V-Werks RTM 176 - Too stiff.   Too much ski for me.

Volkl RTM 84 176 (2016) - Also seemed too stuff.  Reminded me of the Blizzard 810 Ti.

 

Haven't tried these yet, but thinking I should put them on the list:

 

Head Rev 85

Kastle MX 88

 

I skied the 2016 skis at Copper last week.  I'd like to buy a pair this season, so most of those are out, but maybe my comments will be of some use.

 

I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed at this point and I don't really trust my own judgement.  I'd like to end up with a two ski quiver, so I'm trying to decide on the narrower front-side everyday ski and then maybe buy something wider next season.

 

The Salomon Q-90 felt very light and comfortable, but I'm wondering if it would be too soft for a mostly groomer ski.  I'd like to narrow the list back down to two or three options and go back for another round of demos.

 

Thanks for your help!

 

Alan

OK, you are on the finesse side of the spectrum going by the skis you liked and didn't like. Don't even bother with the MX88 it is all power. The Rev85 is a consideration as is the Rev90 (don't bother with the new Monster 83/88, both power). While there is no that will do everything, as Lemon Zest eludes to, just go with the NRGy90, get on it, enjoy what it does best then adjust to the rest. 

post #8 of 11
Thread Starter 

I don't really have any complaints with my Blizzard 8.1s, but they're getting a little old and beat up and I haven't skied them in a while.

 

The Kendos have always felt a little stiff to me and I'm thinking they are too short.

 

I was thinking I'd sell both of my current skis and replace them with the pair I'll be buying.

post #9 of 11
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
 

OK, you are on the finesse side of the spectrum going by the skis you liked and didn't like. Don't even bother with the MX88 it is all power. The Rev85 is a consideration as is the Rev90 (don't bother with the new Monster 83/88, both power). While there is no that will do everything, as Lemon Zest eludes to, just go with the NRGy90, get on it, enjoy what it does best then adjust to the rest. 

 

Is there a Kastle model worth trying for me?

 

My new demo short list:

 

Head Rev 85/90

Dynastar Powertrack 84/89

Nordica NRGy 90 (again)

 

Thanks!

 

Alan

post #10 of 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by Avalanchis View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
 

OK, you are on the finesse side of the spectrum going by the skis you liked and didn't like. Don't even bother with the MX88 it is all power. The Rev85 is a consideration as is the Rev90 (don't bother with the new Monster 83/88, both power). While there is no that will do everything, as Lemon Zest eludes to, just go with the NRGy90, get on it, enjoy what it does best then adjust to the rest. 

 

Is there a Kastle model worth trying for me?

 

My new demo short list:

 

Head Rev 85/90

Dynastar Powertrack 84/89

Nordica NRGy 90 (again)

 

Thanks!

 

Alan

Sure, the upcoming BMX85 (non HP), and the very underrated LX82. 

post #11 of 11
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Originally Posted by Avalanchis View Post
 

Hello,

 

I'm looking for some advice for some new Frontside skis.  I've been demoing a lot of skis lately but haven't really settled on anything yet and I'm having a hard time narrowing down the list with all of the choices.

 

I'm somewhere around a level 7 skier and looking for something that will help me improve.  I live near  Vail, CO and I spend most of my time on groomers.  I don't really ever venture off-piste, but I'd like something that can handle fresh snow up to around 6" or so.  I'll buy a wider ski at some point for deeper snow.

 

I'm 5'9" and 195 lbs.  I probably ski around 25 days a season or so.

 

I currently have a pair of 2011 Blizzard Magnum 8.1 (172cm) and a pair of 2013 Volkl Kendos (170cm).  I've mostly been skiing the Kendos lately.

 

What width underfoot should I be looking for?  I'm thinking something in the 80-90 range.

 

What length would be appropriate for my height and weight?  I'm thinking something in the 175-180 range.

 

Should I be looking at more of a Frontside carver or an All-Mountain ski?

 

Thanks for your help!

 

Alan

Currently 7cm is my widest for groomers

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