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Parents: Ski lessons in snow, rain, winds too much for young kids?

post #1 of 25
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I planned a Heavenly trip months ago and weather reports look like some rain, snow, and winds for South Lake Tahoe this weekend.  (70-100 mph winds?!?!  http://www.skiheavenly.com/the-mountain/snow-report/snow-report.aspx)

 

I'm at a decision point: Do I scrap the trip because my 5 and 7-yo kids will be miserable or just "go for it" with the attitude of whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger!   I'm fine with skiing in bad weather, but this is the first season I've taken my kids up and don't know how they'll react.  Any other parents want to chime in?

 

post #2 of 25
I was an instructor and taught quite a few kids. Most children will be unhappy in those conditions. Occasionally you will find a "little trooper" but they are few and far between.
post #3 of 25

Don't drag your kids through crap conditions.  It could turn them off to skiing and that would suck.

post #4 of 25
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I planned a Heavenly trip months ago and weather reports look like some rain, snow, and winds for South Lake Tahoe this weekend.  (70-100 mph winds?!?!  http://www.skiheavenly.com/the-mountain/snow-report/snow-report.aspx)

 

I'm at a decision point: Do I scrap the trip because my 5 and 7-yo kids will be miserable or just "go for it" with the attitude of whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger!   I'm fine with skiing in bad weather, but this is the first season I've taken my kids up and don't know how they'll react.  Any other parents want to chime in?

 

 

Ok, you say you are fine skiing in those conditions, have you actually been out in 70 mph winds? I'm betting no, 50 mph is damn nasty. I have lived in Tahoe a long time and I don't go out when it blowing that hard. Now talking about taking kids out in it, is boarding on bat shit crazy. My kid is older then yours has lived in the mountains her whole life and has top of the line gear, she will be staying home. It will be a moot point anyway, because I doubt any lifts will be running with winds that high or if the resorts will even have power.  

 

Now all that being said there is a window between storms on Sunday when it looks like the winds die off and the rain/snow stops. Have a family day on Saturday, ski Sunday is how I would play it.

post #5 of 25
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Ok, you say you are fine skiing in those conditions, have you actually been out in 70 mph winds? I'm betting no, 50 mph is damn nasty. I have lived in Tahoe a long time and I don't go out when it blowing that hard. Now talking about taking kids out in it, is boarding on bat 

 

 

I added the wind comment after the initial post.  You're absolutely right!  Gondola will probably be shut down also.    May have to skip this one!  Thanks!

post #6 of 25

are they pure beginners?  

There is a learning center at california base.  I don't think the wind is going to affect the magic carpet.

post #7 of 25
Wouldn't that qualify as hurricane wind speeds? Why would anyone want to go skiing in a hurricane? Your kids would probably sit inside with the instructor most of the day drawing and drinking hot chocolate.
post #8 of 25

As a parent of a now 11 year old ski anything, anywhere, any conditions, I'd skip it.

 

I am sure that part of his love for skiing came from us avoiding taking him skiing in high wind, miserable condition days when he was that age, based on the rationale that it was the long range game that was important. Missing a few days when he was young was far preferable to putting him off skiing altogether because of one or two bad days.

post #9 of 25
70-100 mph will send your kids and probably you tumbling and skittering across the hill. I've seen it BC skiing, but not at a ski area. Not being able to safely stand up should be an indicator that being out might not be the right call.
post #10 of 25
Amen. Until they are hooked, good weather, good conditions, etc. are key.
post #11 of 25

No one wants to ski in those conditions, especially kids...

post #12 of 25
I'm partial to conditions that remove skiers from the slopes.
post #13 of 25
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I'm partial to conditions that remove skiers from the slopes.

I agree with this. My kids ski in windy conditions a lot, and I just make sure they're well covered. It's important to impress upon them or their instructors that it's OK to flag if you're cold, no one's asking them to be heroes, and stopping to warm up is part of the fun. For me the toughest conditions for kids can be heavyish or crusty snow, their lack of heft can make these conditions tough. I also worry about them in boilerplate conditions; onpiste they're fine in such conditions, I just worry about others. I avoid real offpiste with them on such days for fear of sliding in the event of a fall. Otherwise, I've paid for their passes and instruction, out they go. 

post #14 of 25

When we were at Big Sky this past December and we had one day that was well into the negatives. We were able to switch the lessons to another day.  Wind is killer on the mountain, more so than temp.  Play it by ear and pick the best day.  Make sure to have hand warmers, good ski socks and take plenty of breaks.  We skied maybe six runs that very cold day and waited to start well after the lifts started.

 

Then again, we are from Minnesota and we are used to very cold weather.  To me -5 feels no different than -25, you just die faster. 

post #15 of 25

emphasis here is on rain. cancel

post #16 of 25

I've sent mine out in rain, though kind of borderline rain/snow, and they were alright. But I hear you, rain can be a major buzz kill. If my wife sees rain up there, she's ready to get in the car and bring all the troops home. Luckily it doesn't happen much. 

post #17 of 25
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I'm partial to conditions that remove skiers from the slopes.

 

So you like rain and 70 mph winds?

 

enjoy...

post #18 of 25
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70-100 mph will send your kids and probably you tumbling and skittering across the hill. I've seen it BC skiing, but not at a ski area. Not being able to safely stand up should be an indicator that being out might not be the right call.

Yep. I have grown to enjoy wind (yeah I know that's weird), but 70 is my limit. Have been tossed once and another time had to lie down and dig in pole tips to prevent it. I think that supposedly happens at about 80? 

post #19 of 25
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Yep. I have grown to enjoy wind (yeah I know that's weird), but 70 is my limit. Have been tossed once and another time had to lie down and dig in pole tips to prevent it. I think that supposedly happens at about 80? 

For a kid, I'd imagine less, but yeah, that sounds about right. Had it happen several years ago on an alpine plateau. I had my skis together on my pack, not A-framed. I got down on hands and knees and waited gusts out. A-frame packed folks went tumbling... It was pretty funny actually. Nothing dangerous terrain wise. The same day we had another long slightly uphill section with an huge tail wind. Skis on, arms up, and we were off! smile.gif
post #20 of 25

Winds that high, no way. I had a lesson a couple seasons ago where there were gusts in the 80+ range where I had my students, and over 100 at the summits. It was scary. You could hear the gust coming up the valley, and then you would just see a wall of blowing snow coming at you, like a white haboob. I had to teach my kids to duck and cover like the old 50's atomic bomb videos. The gust would come, and I wouldn't be able to see anything, not even the kids I had huddled against me. Then the gust would pass, and I'd look up and see people scattered all over the hill. On one lift ride, I had a branch come off a tree above me, and miss my head bout about 6 inches. My friend was preparing to unload a lift, and had the safety bar get blown down onto the back of her skull, gave her a concussion. My students learned nothing that day, because I was doing everything I could to keep them safe. 

 

Add rain into that mix... and I would definitely say cancel. 

post #21 of 25

Couldn't you change it?

If not, the big thing is what will you do if you can't ski? Rather, the conditions are too bad for the kids?

If there's an alternative plan and you're good with it, go for it.

Also, where do they ski? If they're in a protected from wind beginner area it might not be bad. Is there snow there though?

post #22 of 25
CA base learning center is protected somewhat by the building, but will probably get hit by rain. But paying 150 for the beg. package to basically slide down a sledding slope and not even get to go up and see the view is an expensive affair.
post #23 of 25

Here is one thing I didn't touch on in my previous post, when the wind blows that hard trees come down or big branches break off, you don't want to be under either when they hit the ground. Heck a little branch driven with speed will send you to the E.R., in the other scenarios you won't be in need of the E.R. 

 

I know everyone is fired up about something falling from the sky, but what is the old fighter pilot saying, Live to fight another day. Winds and weather like this are a tad dangerous on the mountain. 

post #24 of 25
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

I'm partial to conditions that remove skiers from the slopes.

So you like rain and 70 mph winds?

enjoy...

I don't have to sorry about 70 mph winds, the lifts won't run. Skied in wind and rain and fog and snow and graupel today. Typical Big Mountain "Spa" day: free refills and a facial peel with every run.
post #25 of 25
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Originally Posted by Ske-Bum View Post

Here is one thing I didn't touch on in my previous post, when the wind blows that hard trees come down or big branches break off, you don't want to be under either when they hit the ground. Heck a little branch driven with speed will send you to the E.R., in the other scenarios you won't be in need of the E.R. 

That is a good point, and I was wondering why I didn't think of it. Then I realize that we are almost always above tree line when we have that kind of wind here.
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