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I just got back today from the Copper Mountain demos. I really enjoyed them and found a couple of skis that I will buy next season. But, unlike the demos I went to at Snow Basin two years ago, at least some of the manufacturers seemed pretty ill prepared. At Snow Basin every ski I was interested in trying, they had a full size range. That was definitely not the case at Copper. Atomic has several skis I wanted to try but they only had 181cm lengths and they were not heavily rockered skis nor were they GS race skis. Nordica only had 174 or 176 in the Fire Arrows, no 168-9. On the other hand Head seemed very well prepared and had a good range of lengths for the Monster, Joy series and Instinct series and I think it showed as it seemed to be about the busiest tent around. Blizzard also seemed quite busy.

Lots of good times though. Met up with Philpug and Trekchick as well as some other bears. I think everyone had a great time. My wife and I used to ski Copper quite often when we lived in Denver, but we haven't been there since 1990 so it was fun to see how it has grown. She spent more hours skiing those two days than she did all last season, but she found two skis she really likes and will be on one of them next year: Head Total Joy or Elan Delight QT. They are both very lightweight and she said they were both extremely stable and quick.
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so whatda like?

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Head Instinct 83mm and ON3p Billy Goats were by far my favorite skis. Head Monster 88 is a very good ski but stiffer than I want or need. Dynastar Powertrack 84 and 89 as well as the Glory 89 are really nice skis for intermediates to advanced intermediates, easy turn initiation, pretty responsive.
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Head Instinct 83mm and ON3p Billy Goats were by far my favorite skis. Head Monster 88 is a very good ski but stiffer than I want or need. Dynastar Powertrack 84 and 89 as well as the Glory 89 are really nice skis for intermediates to advanced intermediates, easy turn initiation, pretty responsive.

which size BG did you ski?

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Thanks for reporting in! The Head Monster intrigues me but you're the second person I've seen say it is very stiff. Doesn't this replace the Rev line, which wasn't very stiff at all.. I hope they didn't go too far the opposite direction. Could you compare its stiffness with another ski? Also did you get a feel for the TR and did the graphene really make it a light ski?

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which size BG did you ski?
I want to say 183, but that isn't listed on their website so it must have been 186. I'm only about 5'7" and it wasn't too much ski. Scott told me they're coming out with a 179 for next season so that is the size I'll probably get. This is a really impressive ski. I skied it in about 5-6" of fresh and on hardpack. It carves extremely well for a ski that's 114mm underfoot and even going fairly fast on hardpack there was almost no tip flap, in fact the 169cm Nordica Enforcer I tried had noticable tip flap.
Edited by mtcyclist - 2/4/15 at 8:17pm
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I want to say 183, but that isn't listed on their website so it must have 186. I'm only about 5'7" and it wasn't too much ski. Scott told me they're coming out with a 179 for next season so that is the size I'll probably get. This is a really impressive ski. I skied it in about 5-6" of fresh and on hardpack. It carves extremely well for a ski that's 114mm underfoot and even going fairly fast on hardpack there was almost no tip flap, in fact the 169cm Nordica Enforcer I tried had noticable tip flap.


I've been sayin'

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Thanks for reporting in! The Head Monster intrigues me but you're the second person I've seen say it is very stiff. Doesn't this replace the Rev line, which wasn't very stiff at all.. I hope they didn't go too far the opposite direction. Could you compare its stiffness with another ski? Also did you get a feel for the TR and did the graphene really make it a light ski?
I don't think I would call it very stiff. I'm only 5'7" and about 147 pounds so stiff is a relative term. The Monster series is stiffer than the Instinct series. If Head hadn't released the Instinct series I might have liked the Monster a lot more. I would say it's only a bit stiffer than my Nordica Steadfast and it didn't really feel any stiffer than the Nordica Enforcer I tried. I have no idea what the TR is and to be truthful that isn't something I normally take into account. If I can't bend a ski into the turn shape I want I look for a different ski. I could bend the Monster into the turn I wanted but it was easier with the Instinct so I should be able to ski the Instinct longer and with less fatigue, theoretically anyway. The Monster is a heavier ski than the Instinct because it has two sheets of metal instead of one and it was 5mm wider. I'm still very uncertain what graphene is supposed to do for the ski so I really can't say if the graphene made the Monster light. I think it was lighter than my Atomic ST11.
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I've been sayin'
And you've been right. Our shop is bringing ON3P skis to Billings, Montana and we're pretty excited about it.
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Did you demo anything that could replace your Steadfasts?
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I'm 5'5" / 150 and I have the 176 114mm underfoot... the few times I was skiing the BG this season a couple of time I wished for more tip than it had and that was skiing the bowls in SV with about 10" and skiing off of cirque at Bird with 12"!

now i'm going crazy to a/b the 179 vs the 176, they say they kept the sidecut and took 2cm off the tail so the current 191, 186 and 176 are now 189, 184 and 174. I'm sure it's much easier to get feedback about 15/16 189 vs 14/15 186 because most people ski these sizes... but I'm really curious about the 179!
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Did you demo anything that could replace your Steadfasts?
Not really. I finally got on the NRGy90 and I was not impressed. Where's the pop? Where's the rebound? That ski will never replace my Steadfasts. I'm not sure what will, yet. I figure I have at least two more seasons before I really need to worry about that. I am picking up the Head Instinct 83 and the ON3P Bill Goat so I'll have:

Head Instinct: 83mm
Steadfast: 90mm
Atomic Ritual: 103mm
Billy Goat: 114mm

I might ultimately replace both the Steadfast and Ritual with the Nordica Soul Rider at 97, which means I better get the Soul Rider this next season before Nordica decides to replace it with something else.
Edited by mtcyclist - 2/4/15 at 8:13pm
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^^179 is 116mm underfoot according to the catalog, 27.7 radius! SWEET

my 176cm is 114mm, same as next year 174cm
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