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post #61 of 65
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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
 

My antique Kästle SGs are a torsionally rigid as any modern ski I have skied.

 

If you were skiing a stiff ski you had to pressure the tips to get them to bend, and the start the cut from the tip and follow through.  If you were too light for the length, because you needed the extra length for stability at speed, you got good at skiing one ski at a time until up to speed, and yes, some dynamic loading did help at times.


I have to agree.  My straight Kastle Combi's feel just as torsionally rigid to me as my shaped Kastle RX 12's -- but that's what both were designed for:  aggressive gate skiing...   And both demand weighting the tip and, if you sit back on them, enjoy the ride -- wherever it may decide to take you!  (the straight skis more than the shaped skis). 

 

Both of them like aggressive fast skiing and the faster you go the smoother they feel and the better they respond...

post #62 of 65
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As funny as it sounds I was taught on that stuff as a very young kid. Leather lace up boots (2 layer lace ups...the good stuff frown.gif ) cable bindings and fixed toe. And yes my mom still has an old pack like that from Austria that they used skiing. Brings back some good memories and some really bad ones about skiing on that stuff (equipment related, pain wise....Ouch haven't had those memories surface in years).

One thing it did teach was proper edge feel as you had very little power transmission through the ankles and true balance. The video shows it very clearly a Didier looks like he is relying on his boot support and surprise there is none, compared to any standard from the mid 70's.

My feeling is that anything after about the mid 70's to current should be close enough to easily transfer skills. Anything before that the advantage goes to the one skiing the older equipment first and going to the new for ease of learning and adjusting.


Perhaps the bulk of the difference there rested with the boots rather than the skis...

 

It struck me that the differences / advantages of shaped skis diminish as  the speed increases the turns get longer....

post #63 of 65

The boots of the '60's and early '70's were a huge factor.

These are my late '60's Haderer boots, the first boots to feature buckles instead of laces.

Haderer boots from Austria were the absolute top of the line in boot tech at the time and went very well with my Head Competition Vectors.

When I replaced these with magnesium Daleboots and Kneissel Red Stars in 205 my skiing got a lot more aggressive.

You couldn't pay me enough to put this stuff on and make a run.

If there is a collector out there that wants the Head/Haderer setup PM me.

 

This Atomic B Tech/Volkl Racetiger setup is so much more fun.

post #64 of 65

Dakine, I believe my first plastic boot was a lange.  They made the scene around 1966, and racers started flocking to them.   

post #65 of 65

These are 1963, I think.

You would know why the insides were so scuffed up.

Skiing wit ze boots together meant every now and then you would cross the tips and really eat it.

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