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Skidding while extending

post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 

Hello all,


The other day I tried to work on turns with flexion (retraction or cross-under I guess). The unweighing and streering was done OK but I noticed that while I re-extend the legs there was a good amount of skidding towards the direction of extension. I note that I did these turns with low speed so there was no ski bending or rebound to the other side. 


So how do you avoid this skidding during extensions? Or is it just normal at low speeds?

post #2 of 9

Need more info.  VIdeo would be better, but words may do if we get more of them.


What was the snow like, hard,soft, cut up?

How about the pitch, blue, green, yellow, other?

I am assuming parallel skiing.  But you may be in a wedge.  Which is it?

Did you flex BOTH legs in between turns, or only the downhill (old outside) one?

How far across the fall line were your skis pointing when you were between turns - almost all the way across, or only partly?

When you extended, did you extend BOTH legs or only one (the new outside/downhill one)?

Were you going fast, medium, or slow?

Were you trying to make full half-cirlce, C-shaped turns, or something less fully round that that?

Anything else you can tell us about these turns?

post #3 of 9
I also would ask whether the flexing resulted in rolling the skis onto their new edges prior to the fall line and the extension?
post #4 of 9
Thread Starter 

Oh ok.. sorry about that


the snow was easy. not so hard no crud 

the pitch was probably about 25 degrees. 

I was skiing parallel yes. I flexed both legs between the turns. At the time of full flexion both my skis were pointing down the fall line. And after that I extended both skis to either side. (to right side for left turn and vice versa)

For the turn shape I guess I didnt care much about it but I can say once the legs were extended (and the skidding stopped) the edges held a grip to the snow and the actual turn started. Staying on the edges very shortly I would retract my legs back, point the skis down the fall line and extend to the other side. So I guess there wasnt much of a C.

post #5 of 9

OK, I think I have the picture.  You are doing something like linked hockey stops, one to the left then one to the right.

You probably skid your way down the trail in a zigzag Z-shaped line.  Each of your "extensions" is actually a push of

the skis downhill of you, against gravity, pointing first left then right.  These ski-pushes slow you down but not predictably.  

Does that sound about right?


Tell us where you ski, how long you've been skiing, and what your skiing aspirations are.  People will give you suggestions.

post #6 of 9

It sounds like you're turning the skis much farther than the direction your body's moving. Think of a car turning on snow. As long as you don't oversteer the car, you can make the car turn. The moment you turn the wheel aggressively, the car starts sliding. Same on skis. 


Slow down how much you steer those skis. Let them point down the fall line for longer. Have patience - they will come around. Tip onto the edges earlier in the turn, and tip gradually. Control your speed through tipping and gradually steering, rather than through twisting the flat skis and braking. 

post #7 of 9
Thread Starter 

No hockey turn or oversteerıng. The skidding occurs due to the movement of extension, same direction as the extension. Here I tried to put it on a diagram.

Next week I am going on a ski trip. I am planning on taking a lot of videos and put some here up for MA b4 the end of Feb. I will include this one as well. Thanks for your replies.

post #8 of 9

Aim to make round turns.  Then send videos.  GoPro attached to your head is no good, as we can't see you ski.

Have someone stand below you with a camera.  You ski down and past them.  They use the zoom feature if possible to keep you and your skis big inside the frame.

Then the video will show you from the front, from the side, and from the back.  That will be the most useful for getting internet help.


Even more better -- take a lesson.  Your instructor will see you in three dimensions, show you what you are doing, and show you what works better, without you having to makes pictures in your head from typed words.  So much better.


Enjoy your trip.  Where to?

post #9 of 9
Thread Starter 

Yeah I think the turn shape is messed up. I am just noticing it. I will fist work on that.

Helmet cams are terrible I know. They are pretty useless and boring to watch :).


I am going to Bansko, Bulgaria, from Turkey. So having an instructor has 2 downsides in this case. 1- It's hard to find a good instructor there who also speaks good english. 2- The instructor may tell you what you are doing wrong 10 times but actually seeing yourself what you are doing wrong is a lot more convincing and constructive, in my opinion. I am actually curious myself about the video because it will be the first time I  get to see how I ski. :)

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