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Sell my skis or hold onto them for the kids when they grow into them?

post #1 of 16
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My significant other and I recently purchased new skis for ourselves and our previous skis are only 2 years old and in great shape.  I posted them on eBay but I have zero takers and now eBay will start charging for continual reposting.  Would viewers recommend I continue to try and sell them or should I at this point put them in storage for 4 to 5 years until the kids are ready,then let them have them compared to buying something used (demo) at that time?

 

2014 Volkl RTM 77 in 171cm

http://www.ebay.com/itm/111589862886?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

 

2011 K2 Free Luv in 156cm

http://www.ebay.com/itm/111587640119?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

 

Kids (ages 8 & 11) are already level 7+ skiers skiing double blacks on junior skis (obviously), but they are not speed demons, the younger one loves the terrain park and the 11 year old loves groom/powder combo trails.  The Free Luv is a wet noodle and have both tip and tail risers so that could work for the 8 year old and the 11 year old on the Volkl being an all mountain would work for his style as well.  My concern is putting them away for that period of time without ever being used since storage when I could get something for them now.

 

Thoughts?

post #2 of 16

Just a thought, the skis are 2 years old. In 4-5 more years the bindings likely won't be indemnified, or if they are won't be for much longer and getting a shop to make any adjustments will likely not be possible. I'd try to re-list on Ebay, beef up your description and add key words that folks may search on (misspellings, simple words like "all mountain", etc.) Post lots of detailed photos- in my opinion photos are what really sell items on Ebay!

post #3 of 16

Cross-post em on Craigslist...it's free and easy.  I sold two pairs of 6+ year old skis there.

post #4 of 16
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Originally Posted by SJB View Post
 

Just a thought, the skis are 2 years old. In 4-5 more years the bindings likely won't be indemnified, or if they are won't be for much longer and getting a shop to make any adjustments will likely not be possible. I'd try to re-list on Ebay, beef up your description and add key words that folks may search on (misspellings, simple words like "all mountain", etc.) Post lots of detailed photos- in my opinion photos are what really sell items on Ebay!

I thought I had done that...but in either case I included the link, if you have time, please review them and provide constructive criticism.

post #5 of 16

OK.. here is my feedback but don't shoot the messenger!

 

Note- I'm at work, and can't really look hard online to compare apples to apples- but a quick Google search finds "Volkl RTM77"  in a package with bindings for $499-569 new from retail/online.

 

Your opening bid at $380 is high in my opinion. (In round numbers my thoughts are that for another hundred dollar bill I get a brand new ski/binding). Personally if I am shopping on Ebay, I'm expecting a decent deal. I'm usually of the mindset that I am taking a chance on something that's typically "pre owned" or "used" and expecting a discount for that risk.

 

I know how I take care of my gear- it's tuned and waxed (by me) regularly- maybe excessively. I wipe down my skis after use, transport them in a Thule pod where they are not potentially exposed to road salt and grit as compared to being on an open ski rack, etc. etc. etc. So back to my point- for $100 more I'm getting a brand new ski- without any of the above doubts.

 

We can debate the value of used gear all day long- I personally often feel that MY things are worth more (based on what I paid, the care I take, and the useful remaining life) however the market dictates price. If you have no takers at $380 try $350, then $300. Do you have any "watchers"? If so that shows you have interest- and that $30 or $50 decrease in your opening price may bring them out to bid.

 

Although VERY risky- I find that I usually sell items for a premium price when I start the bid at $1 with no reserve. I typically get multiple people watching the item, and then a flurry of activity at the close of the auction. Often times machismo helps to inflate the price paid- with the "I can't lose for $5" mentality playing to your favor. You mileage may vary....

 

That's just me- I'm sure others will chime in as well.

post #6 of 16

Used skis with bindings rarely fetch over $400 including shipping.. that is for the most desirable recent model year skis and demos.  For an average pair in decent shape, three years old $250 including shipping is more of a realistic price to fetch.

post #7 of 16
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post
 

Used skis with bindings rarely fetch over $400 including shipping.. that is for the most desirable recent model year skis and demos.  For an average pair in decent shape, three years old $250 including shipping is more of a realistic price to fetch.

 

This.  I can typically buy a 1 year old demo in very good shape (with lighter use than I put on a set of skis in a season) with bindings from a reputable shop for around $300.  For a super in demand model or something that originally retailed for over $1000 for a flat ski, maybe that climbs to $400.

 

Keep in mind that even new stuff sees huge discounts at the end of ski season- Its been my experience that I can negotiate the best prices in April and March, while prices go up in the summer. I think the mentality is that the ski shop would rather unload the stock at the end of the year, but if they have to keep it over the off-season, they figure they might as well keep it till Labor Day when demand goes up again.

 

Sometimes you can sell stuff on the used market for over $300, but usually that is around Labor day...

 

Personally, although it is definitely imbued with TGR flavor, the stickied guidelines on what equipment sells for should be a must read for trying to sell ski stuff on the internet. http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php/39772-BEFORE-YOU-SELL-READ-THIS

 

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-The Commish said it best, "If you're trying to sell gear here, don't expect to get market prices...unless you're willing to trade gonzo for a router. The standard maggot/minion pricing paradigm is:

50% of current online price (not MSRP)
-10% per year old
-10% per times drilled, per core shot, per delam...etc
-10% per marker binding attatched
+10-30% for Rare/High-demand item

-EBAY AUCTIONS:
do NOT post a current auction. You could be fucking over a maggot looking to snipe. "Buy it now" auctions are ok. Posting your own auction is ok. Jokes are ok. One piece XXXXXXXL fagbags are encouraged. We know about ebay and how to use it. Did you hear Bossass scored some 916s for 30 bucks? Sweet, me too.

-If you score something for cheap, and need to sell it at a markup, go for it, but be upfront about it, becasue someone somewhere knows what you paid and will call you out about it and make you look like an ass otherwise.

-It's not worth trying to sell sub 95mm waisted skis here, unless they're very cheap park skis, or VERY CHEAP race stock skis. try epicski.com

-Coming in here your first post trying to unload a tons of things is not the best way to do it. Hang around, read first, post after. And don't spam.

-When you post up your stuff, know the specs. "Volkl powder skis with grey bindings" ain't gonna cut it.

-Pictures. Take em and post em. We understand you've only used them for a season, but many of us ski 100+ day seasons. roo's single day feats are legendary. also, drilled, mounted, ski'd or used in any manner means that they are not new, or even "like new".

-Is it mostly Buyer Beware-Sold as Seen or Make it Right-Whatever It Takes around here? well, If someone is selling skis for 150 bucks with no promises, it's buyer beware. If they're advertising a POS as a mint ski - then that AINT COOL!

-If you are un-realistic about what you are asking, the price police will swoop in and bust you. FWIW, they are usually big, if not bigger, JONG's than you. cracking on a newb cause he wants $50 more than you think his stuff is worth don't make you cool, ace. don't worry about the price police, but following the above guide (guide not RULE), will yield a better chance at a sale.

-Finally do NOT scam, rip off, or lie to a maggot. We are everywhere and we WILL fuck your shit up if you do. This place is unlike any other because there is a trust found here, that you won't find anywhere else. We will ship skis without money in hand, send you free gear for a sixer, take payment at a later date, and generally hook fellow mags up. Check this out for the low down. [ame="http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20100"]Meet the Minions[/ame]

 

 

I wouldn't have a ski sit for 5 years until somebody in your family might be a good candidate. Skis don't age terribly well, and if it were me, I would sell the skis for whatever I could get now to sink that money into your kids future skis.

post #8 of 16

Also, this is probably why your skis are not selling.

 

http://www.untracked.com/p3594c18b37lr-Froogle-11_k2_free_luv_skis_w_marker_ers_110_tc_bindings.html#chsku221000

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/331463150908?lpid=82&chn=ps

 

Your prices are way too high, but at least a cursory search for the Volkl's doesn't bring up multiple listings for new skis that are cheaper than your asking price.

post #9 of 16
I agree with everybody else, you starting price is way to high. Your starting bid should be $150.00 have a reserve of maybe $225.00. Skis depreciate really fast. For example I just bought a pair of 2014 nordica nrgy 100s that had never been mounted for $550.00 including shipping, retail on a 2015 model is $699.00.
post #10 of 16
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Originally Posted by SJB View Post
 

OK.. here is my feedback but don't shoot the messenger! 

 

 

Your opening bid at $380 is high in my opinion. (In round numbers my thoughts are that for another hundred dollar bill I get a brand new ski/binding). Personally if I am shopping on Ebay, I'm expecting a decent deal. I'm usually of the mindset that I am taking a chance on something that's typically "pre owned" or "used" and expecting a discount for that risk.

 

 

 

As long as the feedback is useful then the message is always worth it no matter how it was presented.

 

Regarding the Volkls - the $380 is not an opening bid, that is purchase price.  I didn't setup an opening bid, only "buy it now"

Regarding the K2 - The skis were only skied on for 9 days - maximum of 36 hours or so.

post #11 of 16
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Originally Posted by ikolbyi View Post
 

As long as the feedback is useful then the message is always worth it no matter how it was presented.

 

Regarding the Volkls - the $380 is not an opening bid, that is purchase price.  I didn't setup an opening bid, only "buy it now"

Regarding the K2 - The skis were only skied on for 9 days - maximum of 36 hours or so.

 

Thanks- I hope you didn't feel attacked by my message. Regarding the ski prices...

 

Volkls- I would think you should find a buyer at $275.  $380 is certainly overpriced if somebody can pay $50 more for the ski new (not to mention what may be hanging around in a local shop). I would expect somebody to have a pretty easy time finding that model 1-2 years old in new stock for about $400.

 

The Free Luvs are seriously overpriced. You are asking more than several listings for brand new skis. Used is used, and 9 days or 90 doesn't make much difference in price as long as the ski looks decent cosmetically and has no apparent damage. That is also an Intermediate level ski that doesn't get a lot of hearts beating. Used, I think it is a $200-$250 ski.

post #12 of 16

Here's TGR's guide to pricing skis.

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php/39772-BEFORE-YOU-SELL-READ-THIS

Unless you live someplace where there are almost no skiers within 100 miles I would list on craigslist and not bother with ebay. I certainly wouldn't bother buying skis on ebay, sight unseen. Between swaps, sales--preseason, end of season, memorial day, labor day--and craigslist there are plenty of cheap skis to choose from without resorting to ebay.

post #13 of 16

Sell them now; the longer you hold them, the less they will be worth.

 

Price them at half what a new pair costs.

post #14 of 16
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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
 

Sell them now; the longer you hold them, the less they will be worth.

 

Price them at half what a new pair costs.


What a new pair costs now- What one would pay if they were actually hunting for that ski new, ie, not MSRP, and not "This ski cost $900 new!"  If new prior year models are out there, you need to take that into account as well.

post #15 of 16
Thread Starter 

I lowered the prices to the lowest I'm willing to entertain.

 

The Volkl RTM 77 sold and already delivered, just waiting to hear from the buyer if they are satisfied.

The K2 has some interest but so far zero takers.

 

Thanks all for the feedback.

post #16 of 16

Sell them..... your kids are NOT going to want your 7 year old hand me downs when the time comes that they're big enough for them !

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