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The most extreme runs in America?

post #1 of 29
Thread Starter 

I'm sure this has been discussed at length before, but I was curious anyway :)

 

Criteria– the run has to be in-bounds and skiiable by the general public (in other words, runs that require an okay from ski patrol are fine, but those that are only opened for certain events/people are not). If anyone has any other criteria ideas, post them in the thread as well. Have at it, Epicski!

post #2 of 29

Since you said "require okay from ski patrol are fine" I have to say S&S Couloir

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My daughter caught food poisoning from Nik-n-Willies Pizza in Mammoth over the holidays and had "extreme runs". Plus extreme yakking---at the same time. Everybody out, two exits, no waiting! :eek


I tried to cheer her up by telling her, "Hey look at the bright side, at least you're not an astronaut and this didn't happen to you in zero gravity...You'd be a human pinwheel!". I thought it was funny anyway. Not sure she appreciated it. 

 

Okay...back to your normally scheduled programming. :)

post #4 of 29

WROD. Thanksgiving Saturday..  Just about anywhere..

post #5 of 29

Without a doubt goat at Stowe has to be the gnarliest run in north America if not the world. I heard the producers for tgr and warren miller wait at the bottom to recruit people :D

post #6 of 29

Here we go again...

post #7 of 29
Many people think Corbet's Couloir is it.
http://vimeo.com/51104352
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEeJVmZsalo


This spot looks a bit scary, repelled down to where he was not in danger of being killed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMuUP7FQ9vg

At my local ski area Mt. Hood Meadows, not the most extreme but extreme enough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JTGwpFJNEY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZXszrPuZgU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hog2m7jOR8o

I have found myself in a few scary spots in Utah and Canada.
Edited by tomfifield - 1/29/15 at 5:10am
post #8 of 29
I found some videos of Goat trail, this first one is not so fun as it does not have enough snow on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mthLI0S0Enk

More Goat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weqHQtRQm2k
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post #10 of 29

What's the point, without Josh?

post #11 of 29
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What's the point, without Josh?

Yes where has he been?
post #12 of 29
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Yes where has he been?

Skiing. A lot.

post #13 of 29
Last I heard he was on furlough?
post #14 of 29
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This spot looks a bit scary, repelled down to where he was not in danger of being killed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMuUP7FQ9vg
 

 

The Lake Chutes at Breck...I would argue that although this guy's line is inbounds and isn't roped off, it isn't meant to be skied. This particular section, just to skiers right of the main chute (where partrol helps him traverse to), gets so wind-loaded that it's just a massive cornice that ends in rock. 


Edited by LiveJazz - 1/29/15 at 9:52am
post #15 of 29
Whatever puckers your a$$
post #16 of 29
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I found some videos of Goat trail, this first one is not so fun as it does not have enough snow on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mthLI0S0Enk

More Goat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weqHQtRQm2k

 

"Not enough snow"?  That's what the upper section usually looks like.  Seriously.  It's skiable if you're able to hug the slim corridor on the left that actually holds snow.  I am a firm believer of the "the upper section is never worth skiing" camp.

 

The other video is from the middle portion of the trail which is actually pretty rock free (or at least the rocks get buried in there).  Rocks and other obstacles start re-appearing right where the skier in that video stops (or at least the video ends).

 

As for Josh's whereabouts...  in the trees somewhere.

post #17 of 29
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"Not enough snow"?  That's what the upper section usually looks like.  Seriously.  It's skiable if you're able to hug the slim corridor on the left that actually holds snow.  I am a firm believer of the "the upper section is never worth skiing" camp.

 

The other video is from the middle portion of the trail which is actually pretty rock free (or at least the rocks get buried in there).  Rocks and other obstacles start re-appearing right where the skier in that video stops (or at least the video ends).

 

As for Josh's whereabouts...  in the trees somewhere.


That looks like full coverage to me for Goat, usually it is brown/grey on the whole skiers right and still very skiable. The upper section is the only section that makes the trail hard and that's mainly because of the double fall line. Kevin when you come to the Bowl I'll show you something that will make upper Goat look like a highway and it's right under the lift.

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That looks like full coverage to me for Goat, usually it is brown/grey on the whole skiers right and still very skiable. The upper section is the only section that makes the trail hard and that's mainly because of the double fall line. Kevin when you come to the Bowl I'll show you something that will make upper Goat look like a highway and it's right under the lift.

 

Note to self:  bring rock skis for the Middlebury day of the Gathering.  :D

post #19 of 29
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I found some videos of Goat trail, this first one is not so fun as it does not have enough snow on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mthLI0S0Enk

Seriously? That goes on for fifteen minutes? I watched two.
post #20 of 29

Goat looks like a nice blue bump run?

post #21 of 29
Out West there are lots of places we ski where you can lean into the slope resting your shoulder on it and still be standing up.
As for the East I think Tuckerman’s Raven comes as close as you can get to extreme.
Not to rain on anyone day, but to me Goat just looks like a place to damage skis, with tons of bumps, the only thing making it even hard is it is so narrow and rocky.
Goat should be called rock garden.
Edited by tomfifield - 1/30/15 at 12:29am
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Seriously? That goes on for fifteen minutes? I watched two.

 



I have to be honest on the one with the two guys skiing Goat, I only watched the first bit of it. It was painful watching the one guy who was afraid to turn or could not make fast turns down the one side grind his skis on the rocks.
post #23 of 29
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I found some videos of Goat trail, this first one is not so fun as it does not have enough snow on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mthLI0S0Enk

Seriously? That goes on for fifteen minutes? I watched two.

I actually got sucked in longer. Love the conversation. The kid is plucky. I think I'm happy I have a non-skiing husband. I kept thinking, did the mom know about this little excursion?
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Seriously? That goes on for fifteen minutes? I watched two.

 



I have to be honest on the one with the two guys skiing Goat, I only watched the first bit of it. It was painful watching the one guy who was afraid to turn or could not make fast turns down the one side grind his skis on the rocks.

 

That's ok, there's big sheets of ice covering most of the rocks.

 

As the video indicates, Goat is not that "dangerous" a trail -- you can flail your way down it and you probably won't hit a tree.  The constantly changing fall lines, weird misshapen bumps and random ice patches / periodic rocks and stumps, etc...  it's not the easiest trail to ski well.  I understand that if you're used to fluffy powder bumps you'd look at that and wonder "why would anybody bother?"...  Here there's some sort of a nutty appeal to it I guess.

post #25 of 29
Yes, I was wondering why anyone would bother. It's not like there's deep untracked powder waiting.
post #26 of 29
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Yes, I was wondering why anyone would bother. It's not like there's deep untracked powder waiting.

There often is. It's also a skills challenge.

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Yes, I was wondering why anyone would bother. It's not like there's deep untracked powder waiting.


Mostly because it is there. The first time I skied it I was on some 210 GS skis that skied like 2 x 4s. It looked like the video only with more ice all the way down. I have been on it when it is completely snow covered and it is fun.

post #28 of 29

That run did not look spectacular and certainly crappy conditions, but can't imagine going to an area and not doing it's most challenging at least once.

Sometimes that does turn out to be a total waste of time and you do wonder why you bothered;

But at least you get a sense of the terrain offered and know if you'll come back.     

post #29 of 29
Goat is defintiely not an extreme run, but it can often be difficult to ski due to rocks, ice and a steepness and narrowness that all combine to make it difficult. It can also be downright fun though when there's fresh powder on it.

Over the past few years though I rarely ever made it down all the way without ducking into the woods, as some of the best tree skiing at the mountain, though somewhat tight, was off of that trail. That's no longer possible though due to the microburst that hit those trees (it was mentioned elsewhere at Epic). Last week was my first time down Goat this season (only been up to Stowe one other time this year before that), and I have to admit the damage was much more extensive then I had anticipated. So much so that it took a lot of the joy out of skiing that run and I'm not sure if I even want to ski it much anymore. Guess we'll see.
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