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Progressor P900 2015

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Dawg got 'em for me.  

 

63 yrs old 5.8, 150 ' prefer  short swing on steeps, somewhat faster edge angle on lesser pitches.  61 yrs skiing by now...Yes, I'm lousy at reviews.

 

Nevertheless, at PCMR cold days, dry, perfect snow w/ a bit of 4" fresh at the edges of my groomer runs the ski was a delight, with a pretty quick ability to switch foot/ankle turns/edges as well as a very solid  bite and hold on longer high g-force faster runs. Not a pure RC, not a GS bite, but just a bit below a RC.  Way more forgiving than the Progressor 9+ of yore and way less stiff..  Pretty playful, nice flexibility.  I normally take two sets and demo over Christmas week, was not tempted to do so on these. Rare ski contentment for me.

 

At Mammoth this wkend the snow was limited and hard after the corduroy was skied off. They will slide somewhat reluctantly if you need to do so to stay upright on the ice. 

 

Pull back the downhill ski and punch the downhill arm and you're doing a slalom radius at moderate speed that gives back  great grip and power. The only time they were a bit looser was on the aforementioned gs speed carves. The only thing that held in my experience on that type of turn was the Head i-Speed, but the 900 is way more user friendly than that ski.

 

All in all, a terrific design from Fischer.

 

But I remain tempted by the Blizz 800 that Dawg raves about as a sub for my slightly aging smaller mtn ski the Blizz Sonic. 

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Originally Posted by Carving Lance View Post
 

Dawg got 'em for me.  

 

63 yrs old 5.8, 150 ' prefer  short swing on steeps, somewhat faster edge angle on lesser pitches.  61 yrs skiing by now...Yes, I'm lousy at reviews.

 

Nevertheless, at PCMR cold days, dry, perfect snow w/ a bit of 4" fresh at the edges of my groomer runs the ski was a delight, with a pretty quick ability to switch foot/ankle turns/edges as well as a very solid  bite and hold on longer high g-force faster runs. Not a pure RC, not a GS bite, but just a bit below a RC.  Way more forgiving than the Progressor 9+ of yore and way less stiff..  Pretty playful, nice flexibility.  I normally take two sets and demo over Christmas week, was not tempted to do so on these. Rare ski contentment for me.

 

At Mammoth this wkend the snow was limited and hard after the corduroy was skied off. They will slide somewhat reluctantly if you need to do so to stay upright on the ice. 

 

Pull back the downhill ski and punch the downhill arm and you're doing a slalom radius at moderate speed that gives back  great grip and power. The only time they were a bit looser was on the aforementioned gs speed carves. The only thing that held in my experience on that type of turn was the Head i-Speed, but the 900 is way more user friendly than that ski.

 

All in all, a terrific design from Fischer.

 

But I remain tempted by the Blizz 800 that Dawg raves about as a sub for my slightly aging smaller mtn ski the Blizz Sonic. 

 

Nice!  the P900 is one of my favorite front side skis.  I think the Blizz 800s has a touch more energy, the Fischer a little more damp.  Those 800s in 167cm are going to feel like a 164-165 in comparison, with a touch of early rise. 

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Is it possible to get the Progressor flat? I'm not a big fan of system bindings.
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Is it possible to get the Progressor flat? I'm not a big fan of system bindings.

Pretty sure it only comes with the latest version of their rail mounted bindings.  You may be able to work with shop to get a different binding that fits on the same rail.  Since their race skis come with a similar system, they are pretty decent bindings.

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Me: 66, 5'7", 165 lbs., level 8(-), years skiing - 54 (with a gap here and there), days I've skied on them so far - 3, usual terrain - eastern hardpack, previous skis - '00 180cm Atomic Beta Race 920's. I'm skiing my new 2015 P900's at head height (170cm).

 

First of all, I really like these skis. I've skied them straight out of the wrapper so far. Factory tune seems OK, but I might like them even more after a complete pro-tune at 1 and 3 tip-to-tail. It wasn't love at first turn like it was with the old Atomics. It took me a few runs to get dialed in, but I first skied them on the first day of the season and I was also in brand new boots - Head Vector 115 - great boots for me, but they obviously felt somewhat different than my 17 year-old Dalbello DX7's.

 

I really like the hybrid SL/GS character. I'd say they're one notch below non-FIS race skis performance-wise, but also one notch above versatility-wise. They're quick and agile, moderately lively, love to hard carve, and have a wide performance envelope with polite low-speed manners but near race-like hard-snow grip and lots of top end capability. They don't demand that you're always on top of your game or up to speed but respond positively when you are.

 

Negatives? Could be I just need more time on them (and on the snow for that matter), but:

They do seem to have a speed limit for GS-type turns on frozen granular, but it's a pretty darn high one.

The only other one that comes to mind is that I might like a bit more punch in the tail, as I sometimes like to rebound out of the end of a turn into the next one, but this makes them easier in bumps and crud, and I can use the help there.

 

Caveat: I'd demoed a few frontside all-mountain skis briefly the previous spring (Brahma, Steadfast, NRG80, Motive 86), but I haven't tried any current skis considered to be similar to the P900's - for example, the Head iSupershape Rally - so I can't do a comparison.

 

Edit (@ Carving Lance): "They will slide somewhat reluctantly." I agree.

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Originally Posted by JimH View Post
 

Pretty sure it only comes with the latest version of their rail mounted bindings.  You may be able to work with shop to get a different binding that fits on the same rail.  Since their race skis come with a similar system, they are pretty decent bindings.

 

That is what we got from them this year.  

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Originally Posted by Tominator View Post
 

Me: 66, 5'7", 165 lbs., level 8(-), years skiing - 54 (with a gap here and there), days I've skied on them so far - 3, usual terrain - eastern hardpack, previous skis - '00 180cm Atomic Beta Race 920's. I'm skiing my new 2015 P900's at head height (170cm).

 

First of all, I really like these skis. I've skied them straight out of the wrapper so far. Factory tune seems OK, but I might like them even more after a complete pro-tune at 1 and 3 tip-to-tail. It wasn't love at first turn like it was with the old Atomics. It took me a few runs to get dialed in, but I first skied them on the first day of the season and I was also in brand new boots - Head Vector 115 - great boots for me, but they obviously felt somewhat different than my 17 year-old Dalbello DX7's.

 

I really like the hybrid SL/GS character. I'd say they're one notch below non-FIS race skis performance-wise, but also one notch above versatility-wise. They're quick and agile, moderately lively, love to hard carve, and have a wide performance envelope with polite low-speed manners but near race-like hard-snow grip and lots of top end capability. They don't demand that you're always on top of your game or up to speed but respond positively when you are.

 

Negatives? Could be I just need more time on them (and on the snow for that matter), but:

They do seem to have a speed limit for GS-type turns on frozen granular, but it's a pretty darn high one.

The only other one that comes to mind is that I might like a bit more punch in the tail, as I sometimes like to rebound out of the end of a turn into the next one, but this makes them easier in bumps and crud, and I can use the help there.

 

Caveat: I'd demoed a few frontside all-mountain skis briefly the previous spring (Brahma, Steadfast, NRG80, Motive 86), but I haven't tried any current skis considered to be similar to the P900's - for example, the Head iSupershape Rally - so I can't do a comparison.

 

Edit (@ Carving Lance): "They will slide somewhat reluctantly." I agree.

 

I will throw in my 2 cents: we have a pair here at the shop in 170cm, been a fun ski the past few weeks.  Going up against my 800s in 174cm; it is a touch quicker, more powerful at the tip.  Pulls you into the turn more aggressively.  Feels like a slightly tighter radius.  A touch more energy at the tail. Not quite as stable in bigger turns, likes to be on edge just a bit more. Compared to a Rally 170cm, it is quite similar in radius, but a bit more stout, higher speed limit, touch more power.  

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I've got nine days on them now - hoping for 1 more - Loon on Friday if it isn't raining! I feel like I've really gotten to know them now, and I would concur with pretty much everything that's been said above. They seem to have loosened up a bit and have more bounce to them, which I enjoy. As Dawg said, the tip pulls you into the turn aggressively, which I also enjoy, and I'm now liking the fact that the tail doesn't punish you if you're not quite in the sweet spot. They loved to be laid over digging trenches in the spring snow at Sunapee 2 days ago! So, here's my summary:

 

Take a near race ski with a hybrid SL/GS character and move it one notch toward all mountain, and you've got a high-performance Eastern front-side carver that's more versatile and forgiving than a citizen race ski and can handle varied terrain and conditions pretty well while retaining strong hard snow grip at speed.

 

FWIW, I'm also very happy with my new boots - Head Vector 115. They don't feel as stiff as I would have expected, but they have a very smooth and quick response on the snow. And they fit my foot and lower leg like a glove (or would that be, "... like a sock?")

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