Originally Posted by Twintip
This was what I was wondering....if a longer SL ski might be better for what I'm skiing here? Or does it negate the idea of a slalom ski?
Race coach said non-FIS GS works, too.....but not as good for technique development?
So much to think about! Probably the best would be to find a good deal on both kinds! :-)
I test most of the SL gear with the jr racers I train. Testing includes timing them on various course sets (tight gs course -- lots of gate offset, decent pitch with gates set at short lengths 14-16m vs less offset longer distance between gates). I don't know anyone else this OCD in their jr ski selection but I'm sure there are a few nut-jobs like me out there. I also sell lots of used jr and adult race stock. Here are my observations:
1. Go FIS. I don't buy the "FIS is too much ski" line when it comes to SL race stock. The SL stock (used v new) is higher quality gear vs consumer carving "stuff" with better edge hold that can be had much cheaper. Its not too much ski, its the most fun you will ever have on a carving ski. period. just my opinionated opinion =)
2. The ski you select depends on the course set. If you have a wider-between-gates-less-offset course set that has some tuck portion at the end -- any high speed hard turn you make on a soft, short sl ski may toss you (hook up hard then toss you over the handlebars). Feathering the SL ski into the last gate turns is necessary when the ski s at speed. For this reason on the tight gate set courses, I select a longer stiffer sl which will allow carving the short gate sets, more glide in the last gates and less potential for a high speed toss. Training on a long (stiffer) SL requires making long and short radius turns to dial in the ski and see if it will work.
Several weeks ago we attend a race with a fairly long GS ski all prepped. As soon as I saw the tight gate set I knew I'd brought the wrong ski. Both kids I train DQ'd (missed gates) in the first of 4 gs races (2 sat 2 sun). The fastest kids had to skivitt about 25% of the gates on GS skis. The second day I put the faster kid on a shorter GS the other on a long SL. The long SL ended up 2 seconds faster, but almost threw the racer in the final tight hi speed gates.
Take home -- I replaced the head i.sl with a different, longer sl that was stiffer (2014 Rossi radical pro ti SL)
For you I'd suggest a long, stiff SL try the 165 Rossi. The sidecut will hook up despite a stouter ski, making it easier and faster if you're late in a few turns. Also get a short GS and learn to get early in your turn and wait for the ski to carve the wider arc. Maybe a head i.gs. The GS will be faster if you can carve it. If you can't you will be faster on the long stout SL until you learn to carve the gs. Train large radius turns on the SL ski before racing it =). If the ski wants to bend too hard/fast at race speed look for something stiffer or go short gs.
Best of luck!