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Bail on Utah next week or no?

Poll Results: Stick with the trip, or bail out?

Poll expired: Jan 22, 2015  
  • 33% (1)
    Spring skiing, yay!
  • 66% (2)
    Ski elsewhere
3 Total Votes  
post #1 of 27
Thread Starter 

Next week is supposed to be my first trip to Utah - 5 days (Tues->Sunday) at Alta/Bird staying at GMD.

 

Utah (Alta specifically) has temps in the mid forties forecast for next week.  No lodging booked yet, flight is fully refundable, vacation days are flexible.

 

Simple question:  Stick with the Utah leg of my trip, or bail out and return in April?

 

 

Relevant details: I'll be in Colorado already, and could extend my trip there, or fly to elsewhere.

post #2 of 27

To some extent, it depends on what you are looking for. If you're looking for a chance to ski fresh powder, pretty much anywhere in the Wasatch would seem to be a bad bet next week : http://www.wasatchsnowforecast.com/

 

I skied Alta/Bird the week of 11 Jan and had the good fortune to see a predicted modest snowstorm turn out to be a fairly significant event that left about 20" before it was all said and done. Unfortunately. there has not been any significant snow since then and there's nothing expected over the next 10 days. On the other hand, both Alta and Snowbird have gotten a reasonable amount of snow so far this year - something on the order of 190" total with a base of about 67". That should be enough to ensure reasonable if less than outstanding skiing.

 

I'm far from an expert on Utah, and mountain weather, particularly the Wasatch, is notoriously unpredictable but it looks to me that you'd be better off elsewhere for next week, especially if there's no financial penalty involved.

post #3 of 27
Thread Starter 

I'm looking to experience Alta/Bird in depth (or as much as that's possible in 5 days).  Reasonably quality snow, open trails, and challenging terrain should make for a fine trip,  I don't need bottomless powder (though that'd be great!).

 

Mostly, I have no idea how Alta/Bird will ski in conditions like those expected: highs in the 40's overnight lows in the high 20's, no significant new snow for two weeks.  (Or how that'd compare to backup dates in April).

 

 

Edit - And having never been to the mountain, I'm concerned that I won't have the local knowledge req'd to find the good stuff as things are getting baked out.

post #4 of 27

Magi, You are pretty adventurous and super fun to ski with.  It would be great if someone from EpicSki could meet up with you and show you around. 

Last year @KingGrump and his family was staying in SLC, skiing the region.  If he were there this year, he'd be a great one to show you some fun stuff. 

post #5 of 27
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post
 

Magi, You are pretty adventurous and super fun to ski with.

Thanks! and back at you :o

 

Linking up with other bears would be great - I know that @Finndog helped make my Steamboat trip a memorable one.

 

Maybe the best way to take advantage of this is to shift from "stay in Alta" to "stay in SLC, and use the good weather to travel freely by car to resorts in the area."

post #6 of 27
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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post
 

Magi, You are pretty adventurous and super fun to ski with.

Thanks! and back at you :o

 

Linking up with other bears would be great - I know that @Finndog helped make my Steamboat trip a memorable one.

 

Maybe the best way to take advantage of this is to shift from "stay in Alta" to "stay in SLC, and use the good weather to travel freely by car to resorts in the area."


That being said, if you are flexible about going to Snowbasin I know that @contesstant, @4ster and that crew would enjoy your company. 

If you're talking about actually being there next week, I know a few others who will be there that you may enjoy hanging with too, but I'm not sure about their plans. @CookieDecali is joining them and may have an idea. 

 

All in all, I know you're easy to hang with and that this crew may have plans that fit yours.  If not, then......you'll figure it out. 

post #7 of 27
Thread Starter 
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That being said, if you are flexible about going to Snowbasin I know that @contesstant, @4ster and that crew would enjoy your company. 

If you're talking about actually being there next week, I know a few others who will be there that you may enjoy hanging with too, but I'm not sure about their plans. @CookieDecali is joining them and may have an idea. 

 

All in all, I know you're easy to hang with and that this crew may have plans that fit yours.  If not, then......you'll figure it out. 


Other than using the two days I have at Alta/bird from my Mountain Collective pass, I'm wide open. Thanks for the tips on who's going where.

post #8 of 27
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That being said, if you are flexible about going to Snowbasin I know that @contesstant, @4ster and that crew would enjoy your company. 

If you're talking about actually being there next week, I know a few others who will be there that you may enjoy hanging with too, but I'm not sure about their plans. @CookieDecali is joining them and may have an idea. 

 

All in all, I know you're easy to hang with and that this crew may have plans that fit yours.  If not, then......you'll figure it out. 


Other than using the two days I have at Alta/bird from my Mountain Collective pass, I'm wide open. Thanks for the tips on who's going where.


I only know this because Cookie is coming to our house later in the season and she talked to us about our travel plans and possibilities of going to Utah. 

If we had good snow here I'd tell you to change your plans and some see us. Phil and I really enjoy hanging with you. 

post #9 of 27

I am flying out on Sat, and made the decision to drive to Jackson Hole for the beginning of the week, hit up Snowbasin on the way back to SLC, and finish up at Snowbird and Alta.

 

Did I overthink things and overreact?  Probably.  But I've never been to Jackson before, so this is as good an excuse as any.

post #10 of 27
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Originally Posted by St Bear View Post
 

I am flying out on Sat, and made the decision to drive to Jackson Hole for the beginning of the week, hit up Snowbasin on the way back to SLC, and finish up at Snowbird and Alta.

 

Did I overthink things and overreact?  Probably.  But I've never been to Jackson before, so this is as good an excuse as any.


That's actually a good plan if you have the MCP. 

Jackson is skiing well.  

 

@Magi  are you going to the Gathering at the end of February?  Perhaps you can move your ticket and vacation to that timing and hit the Gathering with the gang and still sneak in a Snowbird visit. 

post #11 of 27
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That's actually a good plan if you have the MCP. 

Jackson is skiing well.  

 

@Magi  are you going to the Gathering at the end of February?  Perhaps you can move your ticket and vacation to that timing and hit the Gathering with the gang and still sneak in a Snowbird visit. 

 

No MCP, but I was able to make the change and remain basically cost neutral at just under $100/day for lodging and tickets.

 

The only real added cost is time in the car, but whatever.  I'm used to day tripping 3 hours one way all the time in New England.

post #12 of 27
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That's actually a good plan if you have the MCP. 

Jackson is skiing well.  

 

@Magi  are you going to the Gathering at the end of February?  Perhaps you can move your ticket and vacation to that timing and hit the Gathering with the gang and still sneak in a Snowbird visit. 

 

No MCP, but I was able to make the change and remain basically cost neutral at just under $100/day for lodging and tickets.

 

The only real added cost is time in the car, but whatever.  I'm used to day tripping 3 hours one way all the time in New England.

When KingGrump stayed in SLC last year, he took several day trips to Jackson Hole.  Its a pretty easy drive. 

post #13 of 27
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post
 


That's actually a good plan if you have the MCP. 

Jackson is skiing well.  

 

@Magi  are you going to the Gathering at the end of February?  Perhaps you can move your ticket and vacation to that timing and hit the Gathering with the gang and still sneak in a Snowbird visit. 


Yep!  I'm going to the Jackson Gathering from the 25th through the 3rd (and looking forward to linking up with you and Phil while you're there!).  Nothing says I couldn't spend a couple days there anyway though...

 

This whole "drive places" thing just made me realize that I've got 3 days in Crested butte available on my RMSP+ that I wasn't planning to use.   The plot thickens...

 

 

Still - can anyone comment on how the steeper/tighter sections of Alta ski (for mortals) in conditions like I'm expecting?

post #14 of 27
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Originally Posted by Magi View Post
 

Next week is supposed to be my first trip to Utah - 5 days (Tues->Sunday) at Alta/Bird staying at GMD.

 

Utah (Alta specifically) has temps in the mid forties forecast for next week.  No lodging booked yet, flight is fully refundable, vacation days are flexible.

 

Simple question:  Stick with the Utah leg of my trip, or bail out and return in April?

 

 

Relevant details: I'll be in Colorado already, and could extend my trip there, or fly to elsewhere.

 

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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post
 

Magi, You are pretty adventurous and super fun to ski with.

Thanks! and back at you :o

 

Linking up with other bears would be great - I know that @Finndog helped make my Steamboat trip a memorable one.

 

Maybe the best way to take advantage of this is to shift from "stay in Alta" to "stay in SLC, and use the good weather to travel freely by car to resorts in the area."

Hard to say.  I've had very good conditions in April the last five years, including trips that were extended in order to catch a powder storm (>10 inches).  But spring powder only lasts a day or so.

 

I'll be in SLC next week as well.  No flexibility on the dates because two of my housemates are taking a vacation week from work.  We will be at Alta on Friday for sure because we are meeting up with a local.  After that my ski buddy, Bill, and I might drive up to JH if conditions are better there.  The two of us have the MCP (and are retired).

 

The advantage of staying at GMD is that it would be easy to make new friends who know Alta/Snowbird very well.

 

If you shift to staying in the city, you are welcome to meet up with my crew as we wander around to various places.  We are all advanced skiers.  Often meeting up with locals or going places we've been before.  We are staying in a house in SLC this time in order to make it a Utah sampler type of ski week.  Tue we will be a Snowbasin.  Three of us are taking a lesson so Bill would be happy to have someone to ski with.  He spent several days there last season so should be able to find some fun stuff.  Shoot me a PM if you decide to fly to SLC.

post #15 of 27
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Originally Posted by Magi View Post
 
Still - can anyone comment on how the steeper/tighter sections of Alta ski (for mortals) in conditions like I'm expecting?

There can be good snow and good fun to be found in the shady areas that aren't mortals can enjoy.  One reason people ski in Castle Apron when it's open.  Also, depending on what weather forecast you are looking at, may not really be quite as warm as you fear.  I'm an optimist. :)

post #16 of 27
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Originally Posted by Magi View Post
 

 

Still - can anyone comment on how the steeper/tighter sections of Alta ski (for mortals) in conditions like I'm expecting?

It can be really good and it can get really bad. I can usually find something fun to ski everyday with exception to  a few days that were downright terrible. But, that is with me just cruising up the canyon to ski for 2-3hrs at most. The problem is what you mentioned above...knowing the mountain well enough to know where to go and when.

 

Although, you should be more concerned about the possible cutoff low moving in during your stay. As it comes into range of other weather models, there will be a better idea the details. You could be looking at rain at Alta base. 

post #17 of 27

G. & I are skiing at Alta on Sunday, 1/25 (my birthday), and then heading up to Snowbasin, where we will have 3 days. Then one day we might do Powder Mt, or might drive to another resort. Lots of ski diva gals, all good skiers but maybe G. would like a balancing Bear to do some turns with... Feel free to get in touch! :)

post #18 of 27

Sorry guys. Not in SLC this season. 

 

The drive to JH from SLC is pretty easy. 

Have fun.

post #19 of 27
Thread Starter 

Moved my flight to Thursday, so I'll use my two days of MC lift ticket at Alta and spend some extra quality time in CO.

 

Thanks for the tips and advice everyone.  Anyone at Alta/Bird  Thurs/Fri/Sat please send a PM.

post #20 of 27
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Originally Posted by Magi View Post
 

Moved my flight to Thursday, so I'll use my two days of MC lift ticket at Alta and spend some extra quality time in CO.

 

Thanks for the tips and advice everyone.  Anyone at Alta/Bird  Thurs/Fri/Sat please send a PM.


So that's why there is now snow predicted for Tuesday? :D

post #21 of 27
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Originally Posted by Magi View Post

 
Moved my flight to Thursday, so I'll use my two days of MC lift ticket at Alta and spend some extra quality time in CO.

Thanks for the tips and advice everyone.  Anyone at Alta/Bird  Thurs/Fri/Sat please send a PM.


So that's why there is now snow predicted for Tuesday? biggrin.gif
SHHH!!!



Key text: "Snow amount forecast data is unavailable for this period." Move along, folks. Nothing to see here.


Edited to add: OK, so this morning I don't think those blue probability bars were elevated at all, while tonight they've grown wings. And that's at Alta. OTOH, they could just disappear altogether by tomorrow morning...or grow nice little numbers at their bases indicating depths of...dare I say...snow.
post #22 of 27
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So that's why there is now snow predicted for Tuesday? :D


Probably :o 

post #23 of 27

I'll be at Alta_bird Jan 28-30, burning off my MCP pass freebies.  I'm part of another group, however, and am not sure how/where we're going (I'm not the cat herder this time).

 

Far as I can tell, there's snow predicted for Tuesday and Wednesday, so not all is lost.  Decent base is all I ask for anyway, and that's set already.  I wouldn't bail on a SLC trip given the current hint of snow.

post #24 of 27
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Originally Posted by SpikeDog View Post
 

I'll be at Alta_bird Jan 28-30, burning off my MCP pass freebies.  I'm part of another group, however, and am not sure how/where we're going (I'm not the cat herder this time).

 

Far as I can tell, there's snow predicted for Tuesday and Wednesday, so not all is lost.  Decent base is all I ask for anyway, and that's set already.  I wouldn't bail on a SLC trip given the current hint of snow.


Lets see about linking up on the 29th and 30th.

post #25 of 27
I'm at Snowbird every Saturday and Sunday. I know the area fairly well. If anyone would like to meet up let me know.
post #26 of 27

Glad to hear snow's coming. I fly in on Jan 29th, for three weeks. Aiming at skiing PCMR, DV, Alta and Snowbird (my Australian season pass gives a handful of half price tickets at mountain collective resorts). Doing a few PSIA clinics in 2nd week of Februrary, and going to check out Brian Head for the first time in first week of Feb. If there's any powder to be had, it'll be there.

post #27 of 27

Magi, I would have been happy to show you around Basin, so if you ever head back out, shoot me a message. And thanks for changing your flights which obviously altered the forecast :D (Although I'll believe it when I see it!)

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